Posted on 10/10/2007 2:15:55 AM PDT by Traianus
Can you name three principles of either?
Then why are the Turks so opposed to an independent Kurdistan?
The pedophile fascist genocidaire Ataturk was a mason.
Kurdish incursions
Kurds (and armenians and assyrians) have been in the region far far longer than Turkeys.
If anything the turks should get he h**ll out.
The place is full of old nations. If they all became independent then where would we go? Perhaps we should create reservations for them! Nah.
If we can not avoid foreign entanglements, then we should at least avoid becoming hand puppets of some terrorist bands with impossible causes. No quicker way to lose an empire than to waste valuable time and resources on other peoples goals which benefit you none or are detrimental to your own well being.
The Kurdish administration in the north of Iraq harbors the terrorist organization PKK, and as such will not be allowed to lead any new state.
[No quicker way to lose an empire]
The U.S.A. is a Republic, not an empire.
[The Kurdish administration in the north of Iraq harbors the terrorist organization PKK]
If the PKK didn't exist, I suspect the Turks would find some other reason for objecting to Kurdish autonomy.
[and as such will not be allowed to lead any new state.]
Appears the Kurds already are leading a new state. While the rest of Iraq is in or near civil war, the Kurds are building a democracy.
Seems to me that a strong and stable northern Iraq, aka Kurdistan, would be in Turkeys best interest. Just as an economicaly stable Mexico would be in the U.S.As best interest.
What are the Turks doing to facilitate prosperity and stability in Iraq?
>> The U.S.A. is a Republic, not an empire.
At her core she is a republic which my Mason brothers crafted and fought tooth and nail to stand up. Her strong yet beautiful constitution also crafted by the same lends her the strength necessary to project her might accross the globe to conduct an awesome economic empire.
>> What are the Turks doing to facilitate prosperity and stability in Iraq?
We buy their exports and provide them their imports. We build their schools, airports, roads and hospitals.
I tire of your conversation.
Yawn...
[Yawn...]
Coward.
LOL! Double yawn.
Yawn all you want. It won’t change the truth.
Turks like ATURK and his fellowtravelers suffer from a most troubling element: they are Muslims and as such cannot face or tell the truth about their sordid bloody activities.
C.S. LEWIS
Oration at University of London, 1944
THE INNER RING
May I read you a few lines from Tolstois War and Peace?...
A lack of time precludes me from reading all at the link...can you sum it up for me and explain why it was sent?
Many Thanks
It’s actually a fairly short essay and, IMHO, well worth the read. Lewis has some interesting insights regarding exclusive clubs and I think they are applicable to Free Masonry.
Professor Carroll Quigley died in 1976, and to my knowledge no one had tried to validate his research. In 1980, I
decided to find out how he knew about Cecil Rhodes' secret society since there were no references or footnotes in his
book. I contacted the History Department at Georgetown University where Professor Quigley taught, and I was told
that his papers had been donated to their library. I closed my medical practice, traveled to Washington, D.C., and
began reading through thousands of pages of notes, correspondence, and unfinished manuscripts. I found what I was
looking for among his letters. Professor Quigley went to England shortly after World War II ended, and while there he
met Sir Alfred Zimmern. Sir Alfred taught International Relations at Oxford University, and since both men were
historians and shared similar interests, they soon became friends. Eventually Sir Alfred told Professor Quigley about
Cecil Rhodes' secret society. The members of the organization called it the Group, or the Band, or simply Us. [2] Sir
Alfred joined the movement in 1910 and remained within the inner circle of the Group until 1922 when he stopped
attending meetings because he disagreed with their plan to support Germany. He was also concerned because they
supported Adolph Hitler during the years that led up to World War II.[3]3. Carroll Quigley, The Anglo-American Establishment, Books in Focus, 1981, p. 265.
Cecil Rhode's organization collaborated with the Nazis. I wonder what kind of special relationship Mr. Rhodes little club had with the Muslim Brotherhood?
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