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The “blackball” meeting that didn’t happen [James Dobson, Third Party Candidate-not true]
MacRanger ^ | September 30th, 2007 | Macsmind

Posted on 10/01/2007 9:51:01 AM PDT by shield

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To: P-Marlowe
>>If we as a nation choose to leave ourselves with a choice between either Hillary or Rudy, then we as a nation deserve no better than Hillary.<<

We may not deserve it, but I would almost put money on it that it's what we are going to get. These very same arguments in FR that fore-shadowed the disasterous congressional elections. If the GOP can't win by running even Donald Duck against a liberal female Democrat, they are much worse condition than even they realize.

21 posted on 10/01/2007 12:59:04 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: P-Marlowe

HA....You know there’s been plenty of times when I’ve stood very strong against something and knew nothing would move or change me...Then Our Lord stepped in and with ease...moved me differently. Of course, I didn’t understand it at the time...but not long I had a complete understanding...


22 posted on 10/01/2007 1:03:35 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield; xzins
HA....You know there’s been plenty of times when I’ve stood very strong against something and knew nothing would move or change me...Then Our Lord stepped in and with ease...moved me differently. Of course, I didn’t understand it at the time...but not long I had a complete understanding...

Sorry, but I cannot under any circumstances cast a vote for Rudy Giuliani. I have thought long and hard about this. If the Republican party nominates Rudy, then I will sit out the election or cast no vote at all. Rudy doesn't want my vote. He will not get it.

Even if it means 4 years of Hillary, I will not be moved. I am prepared for 4 years of Hillary. I am not prepared to sacrifice my deepest principles on the altar of expediency. If we end up with Hillary, then we as a nation deserve no better.

23 posted on 10/01/2007 1:29:52 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
On come on....do you really think hildabeast will be in office 4 yrs. She will have the ability to rig the election and will be in the WH at least 8 yrs. There will also be 2 vacancies in the Supreme Court, mostly like. Rush says she's a chavez....what's he done...lifetime president.

You can think as much as you'd like to. When it comes to Our Lord it's a spiritual process not a thinking process.

I'm a Duncan Hunter supporter. However, I WILL VOTE for whomever is the Republican Nominee...This man will be hand picked by Our Lord...that you can count on.

24 posted on 10/01/2007 1:45:13 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Your commentary is duly noted. It’s also noted that you did not answer the question.


25 posted on 10/01/2007 1:45:37 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo
I did to. First off, Dobson is a minister. He has NO political experience. That's why folks would think it's a goofy move. Duncan Hunter is an extremely smart man. If he was to select someone like Dobson...it'd make Duncan Hunter look goofy, silly...non thinking....

At least Duncan professes his Christianity...we know he's a Christian. The others like Fred almost acts offended with Christianity. If it offends him...then it's the same old centuries old thing....Jesus Offends him.

26 posted on 10/01/2007 2:16:23 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Your contention is that Dobson would never do it. And your explanation is all about why and how Hunter would not do it. You did not answer the question.

Ross Perot had no political experience, same with his VP candidate, and they got millions of votes.


27 posted on 10/01/2007 2:20:51 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo
Who cares about Perot, he lost big time and he put clintoon in the WH...

Dobson is a great man and highly respected. I thought a VP is announced when one gets the nomination from your party?

28 posted on 10/01/2007 2:37:45 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Wow, you really do have trouble answering a question.


29 posted on 10/01/2007 2:50:44 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: shield

Dobson was heartily sick of what the Republican Party had become by the last election, and wasted no time saying so after the 2006 election defeat. He echoed Rush’s “carrying the water” remark, but with more force.

He’s looking for a truly conservative Christian candidate and cannot find one in the front runners. Not Rudy, not Romney, not Thompson, and not McCain. Perhaps if one of them had turned up to the “Values Voters” debate things might now be a little different, but I am sure that Dobson and his friends are getting a little desperate with the selection on offer (at least among those who have a good chance of winning).

Any threat to put up their own candidate would have to be taken seriously by the Republican Party because it would only serve to damage the Republican Party candidate’s chances in the election. Even if they’re not serious about following through with any threat, it’s a good way to claw back some of the leverage they are on the verge of losing. The candidates may not need the religious right to win the nomination, but they need them if they are to have a chance in the election proper.


30 posted on 10/01/2007 2:59:38 PM PDT by tyke
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To: Kevmo

Dobson has a calling on his life to be a minister of Our Lord. That’s how he is called. He’d not accept a VP request by Hunter unless Our Lord suddenly changed that calling on his life. Dobson’s steps are ordered by God. He makes NO moves without permission from His Lord.


31 posted on 10/01/2007 3:04:21 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

You’re kinda all over the map.

You say, IF the Lord led... to xzins, but then you casually overlook the possibility that the Lord could lead Dobson.

To: xzins
Question: If Our Lord led you would you STILL NOT vote for Rudy? Now don’t tell me He wouldn’t...

Oh well, I’m glad you’re a believer in Christ.


32 posted on 10/01/2007 3:14:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: tyke

I can understand Dobson. We’ve moved way to far from the founding roots of this country. The people throughout Congress on both sides are mostly non-Christians. They talk it but do not walk it.


33 posted on 10/01/2007 3:21:42 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Kevmo

No, I’m not. Voting and accepting a VP spot...is as different as night and day. Now your reasoning is getting a bit silly.


34 posted on 10/01/2007 3:27:55 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield; P-Marlowe
If our Lord led...

If our Lord sends me a personal telegram, then it would certainly upset my sense of what is murder and what isn't, but, of course, I'd follow it.

And it WOULD have to be a PERSONAL telegram ABSOLUTELY verifiable as being from the Lord that I could hand to anyone. However, God will not go back on "Thou shalt not murder."

35 posted on 10/01/2007 3:44:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: shield; xzins

MY reasoning is getting silly?

You ask a hypothetical of xzins which includes the premise that the Lord would lead someone to vote for a pro-abortion, cross-dressing, liberal scumbag socialist (and even reinforce the desire for an answer with “Now don’t tell me He wouldn’t...”), but you think the hypothetical of the Lord leading a great man like Dobson to a VP slot to help lead us out of this moral quagmire is silly.

Put... down... the ... bong.


36 posted on 10/01/2007 3:46:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: shield; P-Marlowe
However, I WILL VOTE for whomever is the Republican Nominee

And that is the difference between us. You doom the nation to Hillary because of your insistence that you will support Rudy.

There is no circumstance in which I'd vote for Rudy. It will not happen. In fact, I will work against both of them.

He is a baby killing, tax raising, gun stealing, family hating, sex death peddling, lover of liberalism.

The choice between Hillary & Rudy is a choice between obsidian black and midnight black.

37 posted on 10/01/2007 3:56:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

What I find nice is Our Lord has NO trouble leading each and everyone of us in the way we should go.


38 posted on 10/01/2007 3:57:21 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Muleteam1
I believe that for the Republicans to pick a big-city, blue-state social liberal for their candidate is nothing short of a slap in the face to rural and middle America.

Excellent line, MT1.

39 posted on 10/01/2007 3:59:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: shield; P-Marlowe
each and everyone of us in the way we should go.

Actually, I think the inclination of a human is to rebel against God.

Most people think their inner feelings are an impulse from God. I don't think so.

I can have my own interpretation, but if I'm truthful, I'll admit the difference between that and God's actual voice. If God speaks to me, and you are standing beside me, then you will hear it, too.

Finally, there's no way that God's gonna approve of aborting babies.

40 posted on 10/01/2007 4:04:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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