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To: RightWhale
From the Book
Once there was nothing. There was no space and there was no time. (Now you will have to understand this if there is nothing the laws of conservation of energy state you can not create or destroy matter, in short nothing can not make something. This is a religious belief on the evolutionist part that this can happen.)(Here is the exciting part)Then,between 13 and 18 billion years ago, all the primeval matter which makes up the universe (here it comes)burst out from another dimension and exploded.


Your statement,
"Matter does not make up the universe. Matter plus form make substance. Also, there was no time before the BB, nor was there space since those concepts did not exist before reason."

I underlined the part that you basically repeated.

From Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary 1970. Page 1111

mat'ter, n.
matter,stuff of which anything is composed
1. what a thing is made of; constituent substance or material.
2 . what all (material) things are made of; whatever occupies space and is perceptible to the senses in some way: in modern physics, matter and energy are regarded as equivalents mutually convertible according to Einstein's formula, E=mc2 (i.e.,energy equals mass multiplied by the square of the velocity of light); in dualistic thinking, matter is regarded as the opposite of mind, spirit, etc.

Your argument is pointless matter plus form makes substance.

If nothing exploded and created dust that is matter it does not have to be planets, stars or people to be matter light is matter.

It appears you are trying to add more philosophy to the theory of evolution to make it more religious. (by the way I do not adhere to the big dud)
70 posted on 09/09/2007 10:09:46 AM PDT by Creationist ( Evolution is a faith based science with no proof. Scientist are the prophets, teachers the preacher)
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To: Creationist
matter,stuff of which anything is composed 1. what a thing is made of; constituent substance or material.

What a thing is made of implies a maker. You are done right there.

76 posted on 09/09/2007 11:14:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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