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True lies: The Haditha cover-up that never was
Defend Our Marines ^
| August 9, 2007
| Nathaniel R. Helms
Posted on 08/09/2007 7:40:29 PM PDT by RedRover
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posted on
08/09/2007 7:40:43 PM PDT
by
RedRover
To: 4woodenboats; aculeus; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...
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posted on
08/09/2007 7:47:26 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: Girlene; jazusamo; brityank; All
Nat Helms is the first reporter to follow up on alleged Haditha cover-up. Neither the
Washington Post nor the
New York Times did so despite reporting on the contents of the Bargewell Report.
Here's what was reported in the New York Times:
The Bargewell report, which was recently declassified, also established that junior officers, including a captain who issued a news release on the episode that blamed a roadside bomb planted by insurgents for most of the deaths, knew from the beginning that marines had killed the civilians, the lawyers said.
The captain, Jeffrey Pool, told Bargewell's investigators that he was given reports from battalion commanders that accurately described the marines' killing of civilians, said lawyers who read the report. But Pool said he issued a news release blaming the insurgents for the deaths because he believed that they were ultimately the result of the roadside bombing of the convoy that led the marines to strike back, the lawyers said.
"The way I saw it was this," Pool told two colonels questioning him, according to a lawyer who read the report. "A bomb blast went off, or was initiated, that is what started, that is the reason they're getting this, is a bomb blew up, killed people. We killed people back and that's the story."
Lawyers for the four officers charged with failing to properly investigate the civilian killings say the inaccurate news release created a false perception that the U.S. Marine Corps chain of command had covered up the killing of civilians.
"It was a colossal blunder," a lawyer involved in the case said. But the lawyer also said that Pool's thinking reflected that of his superiors, who believed that civilian casualties, though regrettable, were an inevitable part of the Iraq war.
"That's the rubric that the whole division was operating under," the lawyer said. The Bargewell report, he said, came to a similar conclusion. "It just was the culture of the marine corps," he said, paraphrasing the report, "to think that the Iraqis' story was propaganda, and didn't investigate."
Lawyers representing the four officers charged in the case - two captains, a first lieutenant and a lieutenant colonel who reported the civilian deaths immediately - said the Bargewell report showed that military prosecutors had charged their clients with failing to investigate but gave their superior officers, including Huck and Davis, a pass.
"It's understandable why they didn't go after the line officers," said Kevin McDermott, who represents Captain Lucas McConnell, the company commander who was not at the scene of the shootings in Haditha. "They would have had to throw Huck under the bus as well."
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posted on
08/09/2007 7:57:39 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: All
On their way to a hearing: (from left) LtCol. Shelburne (defense JAG), Brian Rooney (civ attorney), LtCol. Chessani (May 30, 2007.)
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:01:34 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: RedRover
"The evidence recently presented to Mattis by Chessanis defense team shows that Pools press account was an intentional misrepresentation." The msm does this on a daily basis, so why are they so outraged about it? McQuirk did the same thing when he wrote the story.
BTW I just re-read this a$$hole's "Thanksgiving With the Taliban" I will not put down my thoughts.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:03:31 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
To: RedRover
Yes, I remember the New York Times article. It seemed pretty simple to me at the time. Jeffrey Pool, the Press guy, was the one that changed the wording. There was no coverup from Chessani and below. If you wanted to call it a "cover-up" it was closer to Gen. Huck.
From Nat Helms article, Pool was never charged with any crime and has never testified at any of the proceedings.
I guess the prosecutors aren't trying to find the truth. Maybe the defense can call Pool? Oh, wait, was he one of the witnesses the prosecution denied them?
When 3/1 Operations Officer Maj. Samuel Carrasco saw the erroneous information he immediately informed RCT-2 staff officers it was inaccurate and asked for changes to be made. His request was disregarded by RCT-2 and 2nd Division. For awhile afterwards, however, the JEN notation (20-007) Chessani is now under investigation for not updating still showed the civilians were killed in the IED blast, the evidence shows.
So let me get this straight. The prosecution wants two more dereliction charges because Chessani forgot to update his notes. Never mind that his officers got on the phone and tried to get the info changed that was actually released to the public. They are trying to hang Chessani because his JEN notes (which nobody in the public saw) weren't updated. The Press guy who made things up, no problem. Chessani didn't correct unpublic notes - COVERUP!!!!
WHAT KIND OF COURT PROCESS IS THIS?
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:13:09 PM PDT
by
Girlene
(Congratulations Capt. Stone and L Cpl Sharratt)
To: RedRover
Last year Murtha publicly labeled the Marines cold-blooded murderers and liars who covered up the crime to protect their skins. He repeatedly told reporters interviewing him on CNN and other news outlets that he obtained his evidence from the Time magazine stories. His influence both as a former Marine colonel and House appropriations czar for the Marine Corps made him a fearsome antagonist. Pragmatic Marine generals reportedly dont fool around with Mother Murtha.I really do not like this character, Mother Murtha. I have another "Mother" in mind, but I am a lady (and a Christian), so I will refrain....
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:14:55 PM PDT
by
Shelayne
(I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
To: RedRover
"It's understandable why they didn't go after the line officers," said Kevin McDermott, who represents Captain Lucas McConnell, the company commander who was not at the scene of the shootings in Haditha. "They would have had to throw Huck under the bus as well."What makes Huck untouchable?
To: RedRover
Yet another good piece by Nat Helms. It seems he does his homework and writes clearly and concisely, he’s a pleasure to read and informative.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:22:34 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: Girlene
Court is now in session.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:22:37 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: Lancey Howard
He’s just too high up. The suggestion is that charging Gen Huck means charging the Corps itself. So they’re pruning the branch at the lieutenant colonel level to preserve the rest of the tree (so to speak).
This isn’t my theory, but it’s what people mean when they say the Corps eats its own to protect itself.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:28:45 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: jazusamo
I agree. We’re lucky to have him on the case. (BTW, Nat worked as a combat reporter after he left the Army.)
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:32:11 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: Eagles6; RedRover
You know, Tim McGirk of Times Magazine intitated this whole process with Haditha. He wrote a few more articles and then a final one, once charges were preferred against the Marines, indicating his satisfaction with himself. Time Magazine was even a finalist for several of their articles on Haditha last year for National Magazine Awards. There's been very little to no coverage about the story since. A story that they broke (created)!
Today is one of the first times I've seen Haditha mentioned by Time Magazine. They actually posted an article online on the two Marines who were cleared today.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:32:28 PM PDT
by
Girlene
(Congratulations Capt. Stone and L Cpl Sharratt)
To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; freema; Blue Ribbon Mom; lilycicero; smoothsailing
"The way I saw it was this," [Capt. Jeffrey] Pool told two colonels questioning him, according to a lawyer who read the report. "A bomb blast went off, or was initiated, that is what started, that is the reason they're getting this, is a bomb blew up, killed people. We killed people back and that's the story." Why should this scenario be a surprise? After all:
- We routinely charge tavern owners and barkeeps for drunks and their misdeeds under state "Dram Laws".
- We routinely claim that automatic weapons, readily available to anyone at gun shows and pawn-brokers are the main reason for the increased homicide rates of our major cities.
- We routinely blame the type of vehicle driven by a miscreant in the latest SUV 'accident'.
- ... ad infinitum absurdium.
Pool, JAG, and NCIS, have all learned well from our blameful society, where lawyers looking for deep pockets will readily make absurd claims to line their pockets and improve their stature in the community.
Outstanding work on getting all of this info out there, Red. I know that it won't make too big a splash in the Media as bad news and blood are all they care about. That's why I want to see Murtha beaten to a bloody pulp at High Noon in the Well of the House, then publicly taken out and shot as a traitor and terrorist sympathiser. Yeah. I know; getting him shot might be a small problem! ;^)
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:34:05 PM PDT
by
brityank
(The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
To: brityank
This gets to the heart of Murtha's motives...
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:37:42 PM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: brityank; All
Yeah. I know; getting him shot might be a small problem! Well, it's satisfying to at least think about it. :-)
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:39:50 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: Girlene
"They actually posted an article online on the two Marines who were cleared today." I'm sure, deep down,that they were all inconsolable.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:51:14 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
To: RedRover
Someone in JAG and NCIS has some SPLAININ’ to do at the very least. As to the Presstitutes and Cong. Mullah Murtha well... we all know about them.
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posted on
08/09/2007 8:54:29 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat
Murtha should exercise the Boorda option....
His shame is far greater, and did damage to the Corps and the Republic...
I’m sure he still has his 1911, and hasn’t forgotten how to use it....
Unfortunately, Murtha doesn’t have the character or conscious to off himself...
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posted on
08/09/2007 10:40:38 PM PDT
by
river rat
(Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: jazusamo; RedRover
>> Yet another good piece by Nat Helms
I agree. In this Haditha tragedy, there are so many facets of interest and deception, the case can be difficult to follow - for me anyway. Helms presents his points with context and completeness. His articles are indeed informative.
Thanks for posting Red.
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