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Why ALL Conservatives need to support Duncan Hunter - Including you, Mr. Limbaugh
News Which Cannot Lose ^ | August 6, 2007 | Alexander J. Madison

Posted on 08/07/2007 7:36:00 AM PDT by Calpernia

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To: pissant
Dear pissant,

From my perspective, McCain-Fiengold appears to be an aberration. As for tax-cutting and crime-fighting, Mr. Thompson appears to have always been in favor of the first, and as for the second, he was a prosecutor, for pete’s sake! He put a crooked governor in jail! Is that crime-fighting enough for you? ;-)

As for his reputation in the Senate, he was considered a moderate conservative. That’s a designation with which I agree. Mr. Bush has always been considered to be not much more than a moderate conservative, too.

And frankly, his six plus years in office mark him probably more accurately as a centrist who leans right.


sitetest

181 posted on 08/07/2007 6:24:37 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Calpernia

Good article


182 posted on 08/07/2007 6:32:15 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: pissant

In total, GOA tracked 33 votes in the U.S. Senate while (Fred) Thompson was there. He voted pro-gun 19 times. Those votes are detailed below:

http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

Voting in favor of gun owners only half of the time is not “Generally CONSERVATIVE” in my view.


183 posted on 08/07/2007 6:36:00 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: sitetest

Here is another Fred stinkbomb, neither federalist, tough on crime, nor logical:

S.1952

Title: A bill to amend the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1974, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen Thompson, Fred [TN] (introduced 7/12/1996) Cosponsors (1)

Related Bills: H.R.3876

Latest Major Action: 9/16/1996 By Senator Hatch from Committee on Judiciary filed written report. Report No. 104-369. Additional views filed.
Senate Reports: 104-369

SUMMARY AS OF:
7/12/1996—Introduced.

TABLE OF CONTENTS:

Title I: Amendments to the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency

Prevention Act of 1974

Title II: Amendments in Other Law

Title III: Miscellaneous Provisions

Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1996 - Title I: Amendments to the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1974 - Revises the findings, purposes, and policy of the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1974 (the Act). Declares it to be congressional policy to provide the necessary resources, leadership, and coordination to take certain actions, such as to develop and implement effective methods of preventing and reducing youth violence and to encourage parental involvement in treatment and alternative disposition programs.

(Sec. 102) Replaces the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention with an Office of Youth Violence Reduction, headed by an Administrator.

Modifies provisions regarding State plans to require a State, to be eligible to receive formula grants under the Act, to take specified steps, such as: (1) ensuring that not less than 75 percent of certain funds made available to the State are used for prevention and non-incarcerative intervention and for other specified purposes; and (2) addressing prevention efforts to reduce the proportion of minority juveniles detained or confined in secure detention facilities, jails, and lockups.

Revises the Act to: (1) make the National Institute for Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention a part of the Office of Justice Programs, supervised and directed by a Director of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention; (2) direct the Institute to make grants and enter into contracts to evaluate programs established and funded with State formula grants, research and demonstration projects funded by the National Institute of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency, and discretionary funding of the Office of Youth Violence Reduction; and (3) authorize appropriations.

(Sec. 103) Authorizes appropriations for the Runaway and Homeless Youth Act.

(Sec. 104) Repeals provisions regarding: (1) a special study and report on obstacles for individuals with legal custody in recovering children from parents who have taken them in violation of law; and (2) incentive grants for local delinquency prevention programs.

Title II: Amendments in Other Law - Repeals provisions of the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988 regarding: (1) drug abuse education and prevention; and (2) an investigation and report by the Comptroller General of the United States on the extent to which valid and invalid court orders are used to place juveniles in secure detention and correctional facilities and in jails and lockups for adults.

(Sec. 202) Amends the Victims of Child Abuse Act of 1990 to authorize appropriations.

Title III: Miscellaneous Provisions - Directs the Attorney General to enter into a contract with the National Academy of Sciences to conduct a study concerning crime and violence by juveniles, including the status of research and information on causes and responses. Sets forth reporting requirements. Authorizes appropriations.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d104:7:./temp/~bdNEFU:@@@L&summ2=m&|/bss/d104query.html|


184 posted on 08/07/2007 6:38:59 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Calpernia

Don’t hold your breath waiting for Limbaugh. He will climb on a Hunter bandwagon about as fast as he did the border control bandwagon- 10 years late and only when it’s obvious he is in danger of losing his audience.


185 posted on 08/07/2007 6:49:21 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: RasterMaster

I know. Another area that in which GWB, not to mention Hunter runs circles around him


186 posted on 08/07/2007 6:50:43 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Cal can really snoop em out!


187 posted on 08/07/2007 7:05:24 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: RasterMaster

Another doozy...for his mentor. LOL!

S.440

Title: A bill to provide support for certain institutes and schools.

Sponsor: Sen Thompson, Fred [TN] (introduced 2/23/1999) Cosponsors (5)

Related Bills: H.R.788

Latest Major Action: 11/17/1999 Failed of passage/not agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Failed by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 128 - 291 (Roll no. 597).

SUMMARY AS OF:
11/2/1999—Passed Senate amended. (There is 1 other summary)

TABLE OF CONTENTS:

Title I: Howard Baker School of Government

Title II: John Glenn Institute for Public Service and Public

Policy

Title III: Oregon Institute of Public Service and

Constitutional Studies

Title IV: Paul Simon Public Policy Institute

Title V: Robert T. Stafford Public Policy Institute

Title I: Howard Baker School of Government - Authorizes the Secretary of Education to award a grant to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee, to establish the Howard Baker School of Government and its endowment fund.

(Sec. 103) Requires the School to further the study of democratic institutions and public affairs, among other duties.

(Sec. 104) Requires the School to operate with the guidance of a Board of Advisors.

(Sec. 106) Authorizes appropriations.

Title II: John Glenn Institute for Public Service and Public Policy - Authorizes the Secretary to award a grant to Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio, to establish the John Glenn Institute for Public Service and Public Policy and its endowment fund.

(Sec. 202) Requires the Institute to further the study of public service and public policy issues, among other duties.

(Sec. 206) Authorizes appropriations.

Title III: Oregon Institute of Public Service and Constitutional Studies - Authorizes the Secretary to award a grant to Portland State University in Portland, Oregon, to establish an endowment fund to support the Oregon Institute of Public Service and Constitutional Studies, which the University shall establish at the Mark O. Hatfield School of Government under a Leadership Council in order to receive such grant.

(Sec. 303) Requires such Institute to: (1) further the knowledge and understanding of students about public service, the U.S. Government, and the Constitution; (2) increase awareness among youth of the importance of public service; (3) establish a Mark O. Hatfield Fellows program for students of government, public policy, public health, education, or law who have demonstrated a commitment to public service through volunteer activities, research projects, or employment; (4) create library and research facilities; and (5) support the professional development of elected officials at all levels of government.

(Sec. 304) Requires the Institute to operate under the direction of a Leadership Council.

(Sec. 306) Authorizes appropriations.

Title IV: Paul Simon Public Policy Institute - Authorizes the Secretary to award a grant to Southern Illinois University at Carbondale, Illinois, to establish an endowment fund to support the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute, which the University shall establish in order to receive such grant.

(Sec. 402) Includes among the Institute’s duties research, analysis, debate, and policy recommendations with respect to world hunger, mass media, foreign policy, education, and employment.

(Sec. 406) Authorizes appropriations.

Title V: Robert T. Stafford Public Policy Institute - Authorizes the Secretary to award a grant to the Robert T. Stafford Public Policy Institute.

(Sec. 502) Allows the use of such funds to: (1) further the knowledge and understanding of students of all ages about education, the environment, and public service; (2) increase the awareness of the importance of public service, foster among U.S. youth greater recognition of the role of public service in U.S. development, and promote public service as a career choice; (3) provide or support scholarships; (4) conduct educational, archival, or preservation activities; (5) construct or renovate library and research facilities for the collection and compilation of research materials for use in carrying out programs of the Institute; and (6) establish or increase an endowment fund for Institute programs.

(Sec. 504) Sets forth requirements relating to such endowment fund.

(Sec. 505) Authorizes appropriations.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d106:52:./temp/~bdiIoc:@@@L&summ2=m&|/bss/d106query.html|


188 posted on 08/07/2007 7:25:15 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Calpernia

Because he is one of the best candidates but we want Hillary to win in the general election. You could have said in in so fewer words.


189 posted on 08/07/2007 7:26:45 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

How many words did I use?


190 posted on 08/07/2007 7:32:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

see #186 & 184


191 posted on 08/07/2007 7:35:14 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Yeah, I saw 184. It is an incremental piece of Health People 2010 called, in loco parentis.


192 posted on 08/07/2007 7:41:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

That’s a mighty fancy way of saying social engineering, I take it. LOL


193 posted on 08/07/2007 7:50:44 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: RasterMaster

Thanks for the gun owners link, and the link about Duncan Hunter includes a lot of good info:

http://gunowners.org/pres08/hunter.htm


194 posted on 08/07/2007 7:53:44 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Calpernia

I meant #188 for the other, not 186, btw. ooops


195 posted on 08/07/2007 7:55:23 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Sun

From article linked on their main page, the GOA seem to support Hunter, Huckabee and Ron Paul.

http://gunowners.org/pres08/powder.htm

I think you already know two I’d remove from that list, but interesting reading on Second Amendment issues on all Republican (and DUocrat) candidates on the main page:

http://gunowners.org/pres08/index.html


196 posted on 08/07/2007 7:59:38 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: pissant
There are several pieces, of Healthy People 2010, when sewn together that gives the schools more power over the children than parents.

loco parentis, is Latin for, in place of parents

197 posted on 08/07/2007 8:02:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant

Doesn’t 188 sound like the Public Service Academy that Hillary Clinton just promised?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070728/D8QLQ3880.html


198 posted on 08/07/2007 8:06:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RasterMaster

All three are good on the 2A. But I’ll take the guy who used a firearm in combat, myself.


199 posted on 08/07/2007 8:08:12 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Calpernia

equally wastes of my money, I can assure you.


200 posted on 08/07/2007 8:10:02 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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