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To: RS
Not sure your point ... the Saturn 5 was a cluster, and the shuttle uses the boosters and 3 main engines.

The Russian boosters and early ICBMs were clusters of clusters. Like I said, they couldn't build a big motor, so they used a an existing design, just building a bunch. The Saturen used a few BIG engines. Five F-1s in the first stage, five J-2s in the second (and one J-2 in the third). The Vostok vehicle used a bunch of small ones. Five clusters of 4 engines each in the first stage, with the center four also function as the 1/2 stage similar to the US Atlas, which dropped the outside two engines IIRC the Vostok lanch vehicle (derived from the R-7/SS-6 ICBM) dropped the outside 4 clusters of 4 engines each.

The R-7/SS-6 was originally to have a single engine per cluster, but then the required payload weight was raised from 3,000 kg to 5,500 kg, because that's the size of the thermonuclear weapon they could build.

41 posted on 07/26/2007 10:22:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

” Like I said, they couldn’t build a big motor, so they used a an existing design, just building a bunch.”

So ?

Saying they “couldn’t” makes no sense - if they had something that did the job cheaper, why bother ?

Did we wait until we could launch the shuttle on one big engine without boosters ? ... No ... it would be stupid to do so

NOW, they have no money, but they can launch those old rockets to re-supply when we can’t ...


42 posted on 07/26/2007 10:33:15 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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