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To: dirtboy

Nobody is perfect except Jesus. But we have a clear spectrum among these three candidates.

Rudy Giuliani is an extreme pro-abortionist, who supports partial birth abortion and thinks there is a constitutional right for abortion AND a right to have abortions paid for by taxes. None of the other Republican candidates come near him in this regard.

Mitt Romney has a record of saying that he would not interfere with the right to abortion in Massachusetts. He also is implicated in several actions while he was governor that furthered abortion. And he signed onto the court-madated homosexual marriage business when he didn’t have to.

Fred Thompson has a perfect record in congress as a pro-lifer. He checked a couple of statements on surveys many years ago that could be variously interpreted, but unlike Romney he did not do anything in office to help further the culture of death.

In short, Romney is better than Giuliani, and Thompson is better than Romney. And this attack is uncalled for and counterproductive, because it can do nothing but bounce back and hurt Romney.


301 posted on 06/25/2007 8:26:37 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Great post.

And this attack is uncalled for and counterproductive, because it can do nothing but bounce back and hurt Romney.

Yeah, most of the attacks against Fred by the Mitt and Rudy camps boomerang right back at their guys, and a lot harder.

309 posted on 06/25/2007 8:42:43 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Cicero

“He also is implicated in several actions while he was governor that furthered abortion.”

Name one.

“And he signed onto the court-madated homosexual marriage business when he didn’t have to.”

Not true.

“Fred Thompson has a perfect record in congress as a pro-lifer.”

Then how come he got a 77 rating from National Right to Life while most other republicans got 100?

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=22003


318 posted on 06/25/2007 9:50:51 AM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: Cicero
He also is implicated in several actions while he was governor that furthered abortion.

You know this is false, but you keep spreading the same lie over and over again forcing me to post the TRUTH (again):

1)Romney took the pro-life position on every abortion-related issue he faced while governor.

2)He vetoed an emergency contraception bill and offered a compelling case for life in the process.

3)He fought efforts to advance embryonic stem cell research in Massachusetts, despite overwhelming opposition.

4)He pledged to veto any effort to expand access to RU-486, the abortion pill.

5)He has faced constant ridicule from pro-abortion organizations for refusing to give in to their demands.

6)He actively promoted abstinence education programs in Massachusetts’ schools. The abstinence movement and the pro-life movement work hand-in-hand to reduce the number of teen pregnancies and to promote true sexual health to America’s youth. http://www.americansformitt.com/prolife_perspective.html

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An op-ed written by Romney and published in the Boston Globe in July, 2005, titled "Why I vetoed contraception bill" addresses Roe v. Wade and states rights:

"I understand that my views on laws governing abortion set me in the minority in our Commonwealth. I am prolife. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice..... I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate."

“Transforming the courts” is a pre-requisite to winning the pro-life position. Both Thompson and Romney agree on that. And, unless a Republican is picking the judges that’s not going to happen.

BOTH Thompson and Romney did everything to limit the expansion of abortion while in office in spite of their prior statements.

321 posted on 06/25/2007 9:59:03 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (MittRocks.blogspot.com)
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To: Cicero
In short, Romney is better than Giuliani, and Thompson is better than Romney

While Thompson and Romney are both better than Giuliani, reasonable people can conclude that Romney is actually better than Thompson because:

they have identical positions on abortion,

but Romney is stronger on immigration and

Romney agrees with the GOP platform on tort reform while Fred does not and

Romney has superior executive experience, proven organizational skills, a proven record of fiscal conservatism, and he provides a REAL change in Washington with no past alliances with McCain and his Gang.

Fred Thompson on John McCain

FDT on immigration

Reasonable conservative minds can differ. Like you said, nobody is perfect and nobody is holier than thou around here.

324 posted on 06/25/2007 10:07:32 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (RomneyRevolution4REAL change in DC)
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