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Supporters Of Immigration Bill Open To Stronger Measures (FR Mentioned, Pro-Amnesty Barf Alert)
Startasphere ^ | 6-13-2007 | A.J. Strata

Posted on 06/13/2007 12:09:47 PM PDT by jmc813

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To: jmc813

To A. J. Strata:

Nice smear job with that broad brush. You are much too enamored of yourself as well as calling names of others and then acting too offended at what they say.

What’s wrong with protecting American sovereignty? Answer that honestly and you will know your own failings.


21 posted on 06/13/2007 12:56:15 PM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: jmc813

Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez also said, “current immigration laws are too weak.”

(especially if they’re not being enforced)


22 posted on 06/13/2007 12:57:46 PM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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To: ishmac
So they will promise us the moon regarding enforcement provisions because they know they will never have to deliver.

GWB and DHS got $1.2 billion for a border fence, of which less than 1/2 of 1 percent has been built. Just last week, Chertoff gave this explanation for the delay: "Call you Congressman." (Of course Congress has nothing to do with it, they'd already disbursed the funds to DHS).

In the interim (and before the 2006 election) GWB authorized 6,000 National Guardsmen to the border in rolling deployments of 3 weeks. According to recent reports, their presence has been dwindling due to deployements of those Guardsmen to Iraq.

In 2005 GWB requested and was provided funds to hire 2,000 new Border Patrol officers for 2006. In his 2006 budget, GWB's budget showed that 216 BP officers would be hired, not the 2,000 approved by Congress.

23 posted on 06/13/2007 1:01:17 PM PDT by angkor
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24 posted on 06/13/2007 1:01:31 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: zerosix
Read: This is so much bull sh** because we will NEVER enforce anything anyway,

After the Z visas are approved, there will be no one to arrest.

Illegal aliens will be under Z visa Amnesty, and employers will have 15 million legal Z visa employees.

Also note to Strata and Graham that "immigrants" can't overstay or enter illegally, since they have immigrant visas. They are supposed to be here.

25 posted on 06/13/2007 1:05:12 PM PDT by angkor
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To: jmc813
And people wonder why I am so happy to distance myself from these ‘people’?

If your use of slurs such as "hypochondriacs" is any indication, please, distance your sorry ass even further from us so we don't have to deal with your apologist stench.

26 posted on 06/13/2007 1:13:50 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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Negotiators also were considering harsher penalties for immigrants who overstay their visas or re-enter the country illegally, according to Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

“If you had mandatory jail time” for such offenses, Graham said, “I think it would create a deterrent.”

Propose a fantasy that one Federal judge can toss and see if anybody is dumb enough to pretend to believe it.

27 posted on 06/13/2007 1:38:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: angkor
GWB and DHS got $1.2 billion for a border fence, of which less than 1/2 of 1 percent has been built. Just last week, Chertoff gave this explanation for the delay: "Call you Congressman."

Do you have a source for that quote? Seem like grounds to be called before congress for an explanation of his pass-the-buck, blow you off attitude.

In the meantime, Maybe we should flood DHS with FOIRs relating to every conversation on the border fence timetable. Anyone got a handle on the most expeditious way to file?

28 posted on 06/13/2007 2:20:53 PM PDT by kitchen (Hey, Pericles. What are the three things a ruler must know?)
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To: jmc813

Hey Strata: YOUR side started it by calling anybody with any objections to the bill bigots, racists, nativists, un-patriotic, and saying we would have opposed civil rights for blacks, so you can shove your petty gutter-sniping up your ass, you two-bit carnival barker.


29 posted on 06/13/2007 3:05:16 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: angkor

—GWB and DHS got $1.2 billion for a border fence,
—GWB authorized 6,000 National Guardsmen to the border in rolling deployments of 3 weeks
—In his 2006 budget, GWB’s budget showed that 216 BP officers would be hired, not the 2,000

U.S. Border Patrol Director David Aguilar said last Wednesday, “The United States will have “operational control” of its border with Mexico by 2013.”


30 posted on 06/13/2007 3:40:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: jmc813

bait and switch bump!

Bait: Yeah, I’ll build the fence

Switch: The bill passed...what fence, I never promised no stinkin’ fence!


31 posted on 06/13/2007 3:41:31 PM PDT by VOA
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So, does anyone know who A.J. Strata is? I've never heard of him. He can't be very important.

As far as Lindsey Graham goes, I think he's a WORTHLESS POS! A GAY TRAITOR. LOL! I like the way that sounds! ;o)

Now........

I hope A.J. will read this one too, because I think he's a writer wanna be.

32 posted on 06/13/2007 3:59:32 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


33 posted on 06/13/2007 8:48:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: kitchen
Do you have a source for that quote?

I'm sorry, I don't. I'm sure it was on radio or TV, but can't recall where. It was last week though.

I did personally hear him on C-SPAN when he blew-off a woman with legal permanent residence expressing concerns about the unfairness of Z visas, compared to what legal applicants must go through.

Chertoff's answer (I not joking) was "What's the problem? She's here isn't she?"

34 posted on 06/14/2007 6:58:22 AM PDT by angkor
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In his 2006 budget, GWB's budget showed that 216 BP officers would be hired, not the 2,000 approved by Congress.

Another thing is, what good does it do to hire more border agents when they might end up like Ramos for just doing their job? You could hire 200,000 more agents and it won't do any good if they are afraid of arrest by their own government.

35 posted on 06/14/2007 11:42:56 AM PDT by ishmac
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