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CREDIBILITY
Creating Orwellian Worldview ^ | 5-28-07 | Alaphiah

Posted on 05/28/2007 2:15:42 AM PDT by Alaphiah123

As you know America is at war. But I’m not talking about the Iraq war no I’m talking about the war which many Americans think less important yet this war is much more insidiously devastating to America. This war has ripped the concept of truth right out of the soul of this nation and will be the death of this country if allowed to continue. This war is the war on credibility.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: congress; credibility; liars; partisans
"I'm credible because I read the intelligence," Bush said when a reporter asked if his warning in a Wednesday speech at the US Coast Guard Academy, based on two-year old intelligence, could be trusted.-- Michael Roston,theRawStory

As you know America is at war. But I’m not talking about the Iraq war no I’m talking about the war which many Americans think less important yet this war is much more insidiously devastating to America. This war has ripped the concept of truth right out of the soul of this nation and will be the death of this country if allowed to continue. This war is the war on credibility.

We now live in a nation where we assume that no one is credible. Like Dr. Gregory House on the Fox TV show, House, MD Americans believes that everyone is lying to us unless of course they are of our own partisan persuasion.

That brings me to the incident which crystallized this point in my thinking. On May 24, 2007 a reporter questioned President Bush, after statements the President made before a graduating class of the Coast Guard Academy, it was quite apparent that implied in that reporters question were eight years of, “Bush lied and people died!”

The reporter unflinchingly asked the President could his statements regarding Iraq be trusted based on two-year old intelligence.

Can the President of the United States be trusted? After all that is the question that rival partisans have spent Bush’s whole Presidency trying to raise now isn’t it? President Bush’s opponents have gone to immeasurable lengths to discredit him every step of the way. This President’s integrity has been impugned worst than any other President in American history.

In 2000 his distracters falsely accused him of stealing the Presidential elections not even an independent investigation several months after the election which proves that President Bush won the 2000 election is enough to change the minds of partisans who hate conservatives.

President Bush was accused of lying about WMDs and leading the Country into war under false pretenses and again not even the independent organization fact checker.org and other sources that show the President didn’t lie is enough for partisans who are determined to destroy this President’s credibility.

From the “Dan Rather” media, rival partisans and party traitors on Capital Hill to former politically tainted Presidents and Vice Presidents of the opposing party, President George W. Bush has been unfairly maligned, politically brow beaten, and slandered in overtly callus and hateful attempts to remove any shred of credibility that this President and his party might have with the American people.

Rival partisans have used the politics of personal destruction, invented by Democrats, against President Bush and his party to convince the American people that the eight years of lies from the previous administration was no fluke Democrat political conspirers wanted to convince America that everybody lies even Bush who said that Jesus Christ was his greatest political influence, yes especially George W. Bush and the plan worked!

In fact the plan is working still! Working so well that a young reporter in 2007 can stand up before America and the world and question the President’s veracity because he or she assumes that nothing that this President says can be trusted. After all “Bush lied.” Eleanor Clift, political pundit, like most Liberal Democrats, devotes herself to the premise that the President is a liar. Even Fox News’ credibility has been called into question by Democrats anyone or anything that doesn’t fly the Democrat banner unquestionably is a liar.

It all started with former Vice President Al Gore’s decision to withdraw his concession after losing the 2000 elections to then Governor and President elect George W. Bush opting instead to take America on the most divisive chapters in American politics, counting Chads and interrupting votes Gore set this country on a course of political infighting that we’ve not seen since the blue and gray jackets of the Civil war.

We are a nation divided because of Gore’s decision, we have divided into red states and blue states, on every conceivable issue; Global warming, homosexuality, the war in Iraq, immigration, and stem cell research just to name a few things which divide us. These days the only thing that we have national consensus on is that somebody, maybe everybody, is lying to us regarding all of these subjects.

It seems that we can’t get a truthful answer to anything because of agendas and partisanships. Because of that no one can be trusted, no not Congress, doctors, scientist, lawyers, businesspersons, professionals, media, or politicians whom all might be under some unknown influence of the other side that is working to deceived us all.

Now a Democrat Controlled Congress is waging an all out rebellion against a sitting President on purely partisan grounds. They disagree with the way this President is conducing the war, they disagree with this President’s choices for the federal courts, they disagree with this President’s choices of cabinet members and advisors the only thing that this Congress and President agree on is turning this country over to 20 million plus illegal aliens. (There has to be something wrong with that!) Democrats who used political obstruction and non-cooperation when they were in the minority found that attacking republican credibility was a winning formula for seizing power thus they began to use the politics of person destruction on an unsuspecting America to gain power.

President Bush, John Ashcroft, Mark Foley, Tom Delay, Dennis Hastert, Alberto Gonzales, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, and Donald Rumsfield are only a few that have felt the relentless persecution of Democrat credibility attacks. They all have been labeled lairs by Democrats.

However the irony of it is, we now live in a culture that encourages lying yes even celebrates it. Our best liars, the Clintons and Al Gore, are revered and given demi-God status but at the same time we frown on amateurish liars, liars who we can see the flaws in their stories easily are shunned. (Gore who lost in 2000 partially because of his blatant and habitual lying is now the banner carrier for Global warming, unbelievable!)

In an interview with New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, Hollywood mogul David Geffen tore into the Clintons' integrity and Hillary's electability. "Everybody in politics lies," said Geffen, "but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it's troubling." Geffen raised the most eyebrows when he referred to the former president as "a reckless guy" who "gave his enemies a lot of ammunition to hurt him and distract the country." Geffen was not just speaking in the past tense. "I don't think anybody believes that in the last six years, all of a sudden Bill Clinton has become a different person," Geffen told Dowd.-- Evan Thomas, Newsweek
Our law schools turn out thousands of bright eyed ethically confused barristers who have been taught that the lawyer who knows how to use the judicial system for desired outcomes of their potential clients are the “smart” and “successful” attorneys. Like Richard Gere’s character Billy Flynn the attorney in the 2002 movie Chicago, create the spin and the whole world dances like marionettes to the spin. These trained definers of alternate legal reality believe that the concepts of truth and justice are for God while winning only is the ultimate goal for any good attorney.

Clients are told not to speak in order to preserve their legal right against self incrimination while they, the best legal minds in the world, work to manipulate an overtaxed, over politicized legal system. This has become a system that hands down rulings which have no basis in reality. One where rulings are tethered to some alternate legal reality where common sense and justice are suspended in order to grant some politically correct elite, legal standing on a purely outrageous nonsensical legal claim.

In spite of what the popular culture is promoting not everyone is a liar. It is possible to have told a lie and yet the habitual practice of lying may not be in one’s nature. And just as there is that 40 year old virgin there is that person that finds lying offense and makes it his or her practice to tell the truth. Yes, there are the trained liars ones who are told that there is no right or wrong there is only a fluid and transitory state of definition, one might refer to this as relativism, a glass is either half empty or half full, the “that depends on what is, is” purely a matter of perspective.

So why do we spend so much of our time calling one another liars if there is no truth? If there is no universal reality, no ultimate standard then there is no lie. If there is no lie everything is true. Ergo Bush told the truth as he saw it! But it is not that simple when your ultimate goal is to create Orwellian Worldview by Machiavellianism, that is when you intend to change the world by redefining truth and you intend to get people to buy into that redefinition.

When they do and before people realize exactly what is happening to them, you make your redefined reality into law, that’s what this immigration bill is about, force redefinition and alternative reality on the people, and in order to make redefination work you most destroy the old way, destroy the old conservative ideas.

You must discredit those ideas, those people, and those institutions. This is the reason why the President’s credibility is being attacked in such a vicious way; this is why conservatives are being attacked throughout our culture. Conservatives are in the way of this change, this quickening, and this redefinition of reality.

Life will be redefined, marriage will be redefined, America’s borders will be redefined, the middle class will be redefined out of existence and America will be redefined. Some might think this is evolution and that change is good. But what if it is actually the liars who are the purveyors of this change what if their reasons for this change are dishonorable and ignoble and by their redefinition we are less free. What if we lied on Bush? Did you every think of that? What if WE lied on Bush?

Then all who lied on President Bush are the ones with no credibility. So the reporter’s question to the President is turned back on us, if we lied on Bush, the question is how can all of the Global warming, stem cell research, homosexual agenda, and anti-war meme be trusted? As Congress comes back after its Memorial day vacation to pick up right were it left off attempting to hammer away at the President’s credibility, his Attorney General and the War in Iraq we should all take note…

Credibility works both ways or the lack of it!

NOTE: A consortium of news organizations sponsoring the NORC Florida ballot project is made up of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post Co., Tribune Publishing, CNN, Associated Press, St. Petersburg Times and The Palm Beach Post. The New York Times owns The Boston Globe, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune, and the Lakeland Ledger among others. Washington Post Co. owns The Washington Post and Newsweek. Tribune, based in Chicago, owns the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Orlando Sentinel, and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, among others.

The consortium joined together to retain NORC, because they wanted a comprehensive in-depth inventory of all uncounted votes in Florida’s November 2000 Presidential race that would be immune from charges of political bias or methodological weakness. Consortium members will have access to the raw data for a brief period before public release of the database, from which they will develop their own analyses and stories about what the uncounted ballots reveal. Conclusion: President Bush won Florida in 2000 elections.

1 posted on 05/28/2007 2:15:43 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
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To: Alaphiah123
That is probably the most damaging thing the hyper partisans in the Democrat Party have done to our future security. Good luck to any future President trying to build a political consensus for any military action.

But then the “peace at any price” crowd on the Left probably figures that is a “good” thing.

2 posted on 05/28/2007 4:11:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Alaphiah123
My tagline:
The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.

3 posted on 05/28/2007 7:34:26 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Agreed!


4 posted on 05/28/2007 9:53:30 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

That seems to be their mandate.


5 posted on 05/28/2007 9:54:11 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
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To: MNJohnnie

“We now live in a nation where we assume that no one is credible. Like Dr. Gregory House on the Fox TV show, House, MD Americans believes that everyone is lying to us unless of course they are of our own partisan persuasion.”

I’m convinced they are all lying, no matter the political persuasion.


6 posted on 05/28/2007 9:55:56 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (The Republican Party's continued idiocy, proves the TV Series, Lost In Space, was a documentary.)
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To: Alaphiah123
"Conservatives are in the way of this change, this quickening, and this redefinition of reality."

Yes, and for 6+ yrs. we have watched the President with the largest bully pulpit practice the "new tone" which means that with the exception of when he was running for office, virtual silence, regardless of how outrageous the charges, as though the charges were true. Is it any wonder that we have a sizeable chunk of citizens believing the nonesense that the Democrats and the press have hurled at him?

I have come to the belief after this amount of time, it is fine with the President and his party and they are willing to be the sacrificial lambs so that the country can arrive at the "new" reality. After all, it's only conservatives who are vested in the "old" reality.

7 posted on 05/28/2007 10:03:02 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: penowa

Well stated and well reasoned point I can not argue against your conclusions. It’s sad...


8 posted on 05/28/2007 10:17:14 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
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To: penowa
Same song, 10,000th verse. Are you some how under the delusion that spending all your time sniping your OWN side in the back helps?

Hate to burst this Dinocon bubble that the Know Nothings keep screaming but there IS no “bully pulpit” when the Press is out and out propagandizing for the other side. Time you Dinosaurs get off your 1970s Political Science dogmas and try actually living in the real world.

President goes out an gives a speech every week. WHAT is the coverage. Maybe a couple hours of actually broadcasting the Presidents words then it either disappears off the Media OR they spend ALL their time going to his foes to have them respond to his words. OR they go out and have their tame “experts” on to spend all their time being hyper critical of the President.

There IS no Bully Pulpit. NOT even among the so called “Conservative” media who merely pick up what ever the “Drive By Media” is talking about and regurgitates it.

As long as we have a “News” media that doesn’t even pretend to be “objective” the President HAS no “bully pulpit.

So how about the rabid Know Nothing quit mindlessly regurgitating the stupid slogans from Democrat Campaign Contributors pretending to be “Conservative Talk Radio Host” and start living in the REAL world?

9 posted on 05/28/2007 10:45:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Alaphiah123
Isn’t neither well reasons nor sensible. It is merely the same tired old ranting of foolish Dinocons that cling desperately to their 1970s world view. As long as we have a “News Media”, aided and abetted by a Conservative Media that merely parrots the Drive By Media’s latest propaganda lie, NO Republican President has a “bully pulpit”. The notion of a “bully pulpit, is just pure 1970s era Political Science dogma. It totally ignores all factual reality of how the modern “News media” operates.
10 posted on 05/28/2007 10:48:06 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie

humm... I will rethink my reply to penowa.

Thanks


11 posted on 05/28/2007 12:11:36 PM PDT by Alaphiah123
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To: MNJohnnie

Better keep your eyes squeezed tightly closed and your fingers in your ears so you won’t notice you have been and are being sold out. And don’t forget to keep shouting it’s all the other side’s fault.


12 posted on 05/29/2007 12:21:06 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: MNJohnnie
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13 posted on 05/29/2007 12:27:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Lurker; penowa
Can we stop with the talk radio slogans and the mindless talking points? The “News Media” world that the Dincons thinks existed died in the 1990s with the advent of the 24/7/365 “News” cycle. We have even had people in the business SAY there is a reluctance to report good news because it might “help Bush”

Look at the story of 42 Iraqis rescued this weekend from an Al Qeda torture chamber? How long did that story get reported? About 2 hours. Then it was quickly forgotten. Conservatives need to get off their butts and start fighting back instead of spending all their time whining “why doesn’t Bush do this, Why doesn’t Bush do that”.

When did the party of Reagan become such a bunch of pathetic whiners?

14 posted on 05/30/2007 6:28:04 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Can we stop with the talk radio slogans and the mindless talking points?

Who's 'we' kimosabe?

L

15 posted on 05/30/2007 6:53:17 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: MNJohnnie
"When did the party of Reagan become such a bunch of pathetic whiners?"

Why are you asking me? You're the one doing the whining and making excuses about how helpless Bush and the cringing Republicans are to defend themselves against the whacko accusations the Democrats and their wholly owned subsidiary, the press, charge them with.

16 posted on 05/30/2007 11:58:45 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: penowa

I do think that Saddam had WMDs, but had plenty of time to get rid of them before we went over there. So I don’t fault the President on that. I do support what we’ve done in Iraq. I am darned proud of what our troops have accomplished over there, and hope that the country will soon be able to operate on its own.

But I do fault the president on the pretense of providing “Homeland Security” while keeping our borders wide open during wartime. That is unheard of!
And I think he was prepared to be the fall guy for a great many accusations thrown at him after he took office. I also think he had a definite agenda in mind when he took office. He lied when he took the oath of office.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was indeed a fine, Christian man who put his country first, but my president has betrayed me. Like his father, he is a globalist, furthering the abolition of our precious sovereignty in his quest for One World Government. That has always been the goal of the CFR, and therefore the goal of every member of the CFR, of which he is one.

I will not be fooled again.


17 posted on 05/31/2007 9:14:21 PM PDT by Paperdoll (.........on the cutting edge)
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To: Paperdoll

I agree with everything you’ve said because I’ve passed along the same path you have to reach where I am. I suspect that before long we will see revealed all the reasons behind the actions and non-actions taken by this President and many of the Republicans we have elected to office.


18 posted on 06/01/2007 7:55:22 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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