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Reno & Gonzales, Apples & Oranges
www.cbsnews.com ^ | 03/15/07 | Andrew Cohen

Posted on 03/15/2007 4:16:57 PM PDT by personalaccts

Reno & Gonzales, Apples & Oranges Posted by Andrew Cohen

(CBS)Lawyer Andrew Cohen analyzes legal affairs for CBS News and CBSNews.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is so much disinformation and misinformation floating around cyberspace these days about the firing of eight federal prosecutors that you would almost think people on one side of the debate and the other are writing about and analyzing two completely different stories. Over and over again, supporters of the White House, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, seem to want to compare the current controversy with, especially, the decision by President Bill Clinton in 1993 to dismiss all of the federal prosecutors who had served under his predecessor, George H. W. Bush.

To compare these two episodes is to say that when a dog bites a man it is as newsworthy as when a man bites a dog. The comparison simply doesn’t work. As I have mentioned here before, every incoming president seeks to install into office his crop of federal prosecutors. Republican presidents have done this and so have Democrats and it is such routine that it barely makes any news. Existing federal prosecutors know that, when the president who appointed them leaves office, they had better start updating the resume. Like it or not, this practice is not controversial. It is a rule that has governed the game for decades.

So, please, let’s all stop trying to compare the “Reno 93” with the “Gonzales 8.” Even Republican lawmakers are growing uneasy with that inapt comparison. One legal scholar after another, and one veteran Justice Department watcher after another, has come forward to say that it is extraordinary for a White House to fire a federal prosecutor mid-term, or even mid-presidency, absent some extraordinary misfeasance or malfeasance on the part of the U.S. Attorney. Here is just the latest to do so.

The men and women who were fired by the White House and the Justice Department were not drunkards or dope addicts or bribe-taking sleazebags. They were not legal loose cannons or leftover Hippies from some Democratic administration. They were Republicans and had gotten their jobs in the first place because they had established themselves worthy on both legal and political grounds. Go ahead and read John McKay’s story, eloquently told last night on the Evening News, and then argue that he is not precisely the sort of person who ought to be the bulwark of our federal legal system.

Finally, a word about two sources I used earlier this week as we began this dialogue. Some cyber folks, trying to attack the credibility of eminent professors Stanley Katz and Stanley Kutler, took the time to research their campaign contributions. I do not know, and don’t necessarily care, where the two professors I interviewed choose to spend their money. I do know, however, that when I asked them to name their best and favorite attorneys general, they both picked a Republican. One picked Ed. Levy, President Ford’s attorney general. The other picked President Eisenhower’s attorney general, Herbert Brownell.

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This guy didn't mention that Janet Reno killed children (burned them to death). She was defended. Republicnas need some guts and should quit worrying about making friends. Register Independent.
1 posted on 03/15/2007 4:17:03 PM PDT by personalaccts
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To: personalaccts

There?


2 posted on 03/15/2007 4:19:09 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan; Admin Moderator

Actual title should be: Reno & Gonzales, Apples & Oranges


3 posted on 03/15/2007 4:20:58 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: personalaccts
The men and women who were fired by the White House and the Justice Department were not drunkards or dope addicts or bribe-taking sleazebags. They were not legal loose cannons or leftover Hippies from some Democratic administration. They were Republicans and had gotten their jobs in the first place because they had established themselves worthy on both legal and political grounds.

It does not matter you left wing lunatic because they serve under the pleasure of the President and he can fire them at anytime and no matter who they are.

4 posted on 03/15/2007 4:21:55 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: personalaccts

Spellcheck!


5 posted on 03/15/2007 4:22:41 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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Can Republicans ever find there gut, backbone, spine?

I don't no. Thay mite be able too, but I dought it.

6 posted on 03/15/2007 4:23:14 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Rudy? Hunter? McCain? Tancredo? Romney? Presenting WWF FR style.....)
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To: personalaccts; Victoria Delsoul
Can Republicans ever find there gut, backbone, spine?

The threshold question is, of course, whether their gut, backbone, or spine even exists, let alone finding it.

7 posted on 03/15/2007 4:23:52 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: personalaccts; M. Thatcher
You shouldn't change the title on articles, it leads to too many duplicate posts.

Welcome to FR.

Thanks M. Thatcher.

8 posted on 03/15/2007 4:24:20 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Theresawithanh

LOL!


9 posted on 03/15/2007 4:25:04 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: personalaccts

George Bush is like a guy I have known and done business with for many years in the oil patch....he is too nice. Uses that Christian approach of turn the other cheek. He has cost his investors lots of money....but he is so honest that all of us stay with him and frankly love him. The President is the same type of fellow but he really needs to take off his jock strap and let those big boys swing and tell those jackasses in Washington to go FO....and also the world leaders need to get the same message! There is a time for being nice and there is a time for kicking a$$..... The time is now!!


10 posted on 03/15/2007 4:25:11 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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There a gut, here a backbone, everywhere a spine...

No they won't find those body parts---it's time for an autopsy.

11 posted on 03/15/2007 4:25:53 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: personalaccts

These are not the best of times.


12 posted on 03/15/2007 4:26:30 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

You're so right . Although I think the time has passed and it will never change . I've given up on the idea and hope.


13 posted on 03/15/2007 4:31:01 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (LIBERALS : -- ROMNEY DEFEATS THEM -- RUDY EMBRACES THEM !)
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To: Andy'smom
Spellcheck is not going to correct 'there' vs 'their'.

Goin' to skool will. ;^)

14 posted on 03/15/2007 4:32:10 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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You assume that the Republicans don't oppose the Left because they have no spine.

I assume they do not oppose the Left because it is their job to maintain the pretense that there is actually any opposition to the Socialist agenda, while not actually doing anything effective

15 posted on 03/15/2007 4:33:13 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

"Uses that Christian approach of turn the other cheek. There is a time for being nice and there is a time for kicking a$$..... The time is now!!"





John 2:13 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.


16 posted on 03/15/2007 4:41:00 PM PDT by WKB (Fred "YES", Duncan "yes", Newt "yes", Mitt "maybe", Rino Rudy "no way")
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To: fanfan

There is no their there.


17 posted on 03/15/2007 4:47:11 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: personalaccts

The only true backbone I have seen in the Republicans are the great unwashed masses.


18 posted on 03/15/2007 4:54:16 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Enterprise

Thars there's and their's and they'res around these parts matey.

19 posted on 03/15/2007 5:04:23 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: personalaccts

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=14457200288064322170


20 posted on 03/15/2007 5:18:30 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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