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To: BohDaThone

Someone should point you to the congressional record. I don't have a link but according to serveral members of congress the number is higher than 6.


25 posted on 03/02/2007 6:06:19 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: From One - Many
The web really is a wonderful resource -- after tracking sources back and forth (including a great FReep link in November about a bogus "INS/FBI statistical report on Undocumented Aliens") :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1738432/posts

I came up with THIS source that seems to track the allegation at the top of this thread:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=10663

If you read it, it is based entirely on assuming that each illegal alien here has a propensity to murder equal to the averge murder rate in his/her home country. That's it. Nothing more or less. Which is a pretty preposterous way to try to get a figure. I have no doubt that illegals commit murders. A lot of murders. But 100 is a lot, and so is 4,000. If you want to know where the truth lies in between, this "study" won't do it.

I did find THIS chart (Table 12)

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p05.pdf

from a DOJ report (linked from Vdare.com, which is definitely not pro-immigrant), showng that about 18% of the people in jail for murder nationwide are Hispanic. That seems to be a hard number. From there, you can make your own assumptions.

Mine would be that the best figures are that maybe 1/3 of hispanics in this country are illegal (10 million out of 30 million). A pro-immigrant study recently showed that native born hispanics commited crimes at a higher rate than immigrants, legal or illegal. The study was criticized by opponent, but not on this point. In fact, the critics mostly argued that it shows the deleterious long-term effects of current immigration policies, as immigrant groups get worse, not better, over time, as was the case with earlier groups. So -- take your pick. But if we split the difference and say illegals murder at same rate as native hispanics, we get 6% of all murders, or about 1,000. That's a lot. But I think it is a better start at a methodology than the original post.

39 posted on 03/02/2007 7:16:10 AM PST by BohDaThone
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