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To: Rudder

It depends on how you define 'conservative'.

I consider the core of conservatism at the national level to be:

1. Strong national defense
2. Low taxes
3. Strict constructionist judges with regard to rights reserved for the states.

The Constitution was designed not to give the Federal government any say over social issues.


4 posted on 02/25/2007 3:28:45 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

Well said! Last I knew, conservatives wanted government out of our lives and out of our bedrooms.


9 posted on 02/25/2007 3:33:08 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: proxy_user
The Constitution was designed not to give the Federal government any say over social issues

Too late.

Surely you're not suggesting that we abandon the social issue law and regulations to the Leftists on principal?

12 posted on 02/25/2007 3:36:12 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: proxy_user
1. Strong national defense

What does that mean?

There are several elements that comprise that lofty objective. Many of those elements are not supported by many legislators... democrats and republicans.

15 posted on 02/25/2007 3:36:59 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: proxy_user
The Constitution was designed not to give the Federal government any say over social issues.Ah! a kindred spirit. I've been arguing this for years around here...not getting a lot of sympathy, however.
27 posted on 02/25/2007 3:43:39 PM PST by Rudder
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To: proxy_user
The Constitution was designed not to give the Federal government any say over social issues.

Exactly.

Murder is not a social issue. The DoI observes a right to life.
Congress shall not infringe ownership & possession of weapons.
"Gay marriage" isn't marriage, however you cut it. Two guys can't make a baby, impossible, no hope, period, full stop.
Congress may promote the general welfare, but not by robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Ordering Peter to pay Paul is also not tolerable.
I can arrange my own retirement plan, thank you very much.

Preventing the federal gov't from meddling in these social issues is also the core of conservatism; anyone (Rudy) who does meddle contrary to the above points rapidly loses his "conservative" mantle.
And actively ensuring the gov't does not meddle in social issues must not be confused with meddling in social issues.

34 posted on 02/25/2007 3:46:08 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: proxy_user; Peach

No. 2 on your list directly regards social issues. You cannot be a fiscal conservative without being a social conservative, since the enormous funding required for the social agenda is what drives taxes. Since when did wanting to end the left's practice of using the government to drive their social agenda become nonconservative?


48 posted on 02/25/2007 3:58:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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