The Looming GOP Rift: Will the Right Secede?

Self | 2/25/07 | Rudder

[muawiyah]

Let's get serious. Didn't Giuliani have prostate surgery?

Many otherwise very capable men have given up political life, and command, after that surgery.

[narses]

...vote for a win in 2008 no matter who (except Rudy) is our candidate?

[Jim Robinson]

"Right now, Rudy looks like a winner and a guy who can best handle the job as CIC."

I don't get it. Please list Rudy's qualifications that make him the guy who "can best handle the job as CIC." If I recall correctly, Rudy has no military training or experience whatsoever. Even dropped out of ROTC and got a deferment from serving in Vietnam because he was a much needed law clerk. Clinton did the same thing and we all called him a "draft dodger" not the man best suited to lead as CIC.

[Alberta's Child]

McCain's got way too many flaws to be considered a serious candidate -- notably his age, his antagonism towards the White House over the last six years, and questions about his mental stability.

He was only a serious candidate to those who bought into the media nonsense involving his annointment as a "moderate" in Washington, D.C.

[RJL]

Legal immigrants may break 50%/50% between Republicans and Democrats, but the former illegals will be looking to vote themselves freebies from the government and these folks will be voting about 90% Democrat.

As soon as Bush signs Teddy Kennedy's "comprehensive" amnesty and citizenship for 20 million illegals, it won't matter how we vote, the Republicans will be out of power for at least another 40 years. I believe it may well be the end of the Republican party.

[airborne]

I'm just tired of the "If you don't support Rudy, you'll get Hillary" argument.

IMHO, it's an argument worthy of the drive by media, not Freepers.

[Rudder]

The Constitution was designed not to give the Federal government any say over social issues.Ah! a kindred spirit. I've been arguing this for years around here...not getting a lot of sympathy, however.

[CindyDawg]

Are moderate Republicans asking Conservatives to turn their backs on their principals and beliefs and vote against something they strongly believe in? Where is the compromise on their part. Seems very one sided to me. Sad.

[Fireone]

I refuse to vote for any potential gun grabber...period!

[smoothsailing]

I'm happy the Constitution prevents President Bush from running for a third term.

LOL! He probably is too!

[johnny7]

True conservatives voting for McCain... Giuliani... would be like taking non-lethal... but yet damaging doses of arsenic. Staying home on election day would be the equivalent of walking into a lions cage and being eaten alive.

All I know is that November 7th hurt conservatives more than it did RINO's... whether we will be a factor or not in 2008, remains to be seen.

[CindyDawg]

Amen.

[Jet Jaguar]

Well put.

[ctdonath2]

The Constitution was designed not to give the Federal government any say over social issues.

Exactly.

Murder is not a social issue. The DoI observes a right to life.
Congress shall not infringe ownership & possession of weapons.
"Gay marriage" isn't marriage, however you cut it. Two guys can't make a baby, impossible, no hope, period, full stop.
Congress may promote the general welfare, but not by robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Ordering Peter to pay Paul is also not tolerable.
I can arrange my own retirement plan, thank you very much.

Preventing the federal gov't from meddling in these social issues is also the core of conservatism; anyone (Rudy) who does meddle contrary to the above points rapidly loses his "conservative" mantle.
And actively ensuring the gov't does not meddle in social issues must not be confused with meddling in social issues.

[Rudder]

He's just loco, irrational and doesn't know what he's doing.

McCain would box your ears in for saying that...that's the problem.

[CindyDawg]

That's low.

[stockstrader]

You said, "Clinton did the same thing and we all called him a "draft dodger" not the man best suited to lead as CIC."

You won't hear a 'squeak' from the Rudy-apologists on that one--likely the same ones who slammed Slick over his draft-dodger status.

In addition to that, Rudy's 'train wreck' of a personal life--makes him the only candidate in either party running for President,,,,to make Clinton look like a "GOOD HUSBAND AND FAMILY MAN"!!

You won't hear the Rudy-apologists say much about that one either (other than the pathetic, time-honored, ad nauseum, cop-out, of saying, "Rudy isn't perfect".) I will agree with them on that one, though,,,Rudy most certainly IS more imperfect than any of the other candidates!

[Gorzaloon]

The choice is so clear that it blinds. Anyone who withholds support from the party's nominee who is not a Democrat, is paying for 8 cylinders and running on 6.

I remember, to my eternal shame and self-disgust falling for the Perot scam and electing CLINTON.

Never, never, never again. Not ever, Damnittohell.

If Satan, or even worse, !Hilary! ran as a Republican I would have to vote for them!

(Neither would of course, so I am safe. To begin with, if Satan ran, she'd have him killed.)

[investigateworld]

If any candidate supports abortion ... even allowing for wiggle room, I cannot vote for him/her. Regardless of what party label they wear.

Even to the extent of watching Hillary take office.

Not sorry, but that's the way it is.

If a pro-abortionist is elected so be it, but it will be without my help.

[ctdonath2]

Anyone who withholds support from the party's nominee who is not a Democrat, is paying for 8 cylinders and running on 6.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
Any party which runs a Democrat as its candidate runs a Democrat as its candidate, even if a "Republican" label is affixed.