Mexico demanded U.S. prosecute sheriff, agents. Docs show role of consulate in Ramos-Compean case

World Net Daily ^ | Feb 13, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

[PhilDragoo]

Kerik. Not like in Prince of the City:

Dennis Miller just told Jay Leno he supports Rudy, that toughness is all they understand.

Bremer protected al Sadr. Imagine that, our government protects al Sadr, Aldrete-Davila, but chews up our Haditha Marines and our Border Patrol agents.

There's a good deal of corruption to clean out.

There was Ann Bingaman antitrust under Reno, when the Clintons put more effort into going after Bill Gates than Osama bin Laden.

It's the fight of our lives.

France and Britain may have already lost.

Oh, and more effort going after Elian Gonzales than Osama bin Laden.

[La Enchiladita]

Too numerous instances of timidity when force is needed and too numerous big deals made out of small potatoes, like this Ramos/Compean incident. It should have merited some time off, and no publicity. That's all. Now look.

Bin Laden's a Saudi, right?

[Iwo Jima]

I've found out that I hate Debra Kanof. What a b-i-itch.

[PhilDragoo]

Yes. Big family. Lots of sons. Contracting business.

Do you think bin Laden is a deniable asset of their royal family.

[La Enchiladita]

I think Saudis are untouchable.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Another case where the pro-pardons crowd focuses on the logistics that brought about the discovery and prosecution of a crime, rather than the evidence of the crime itself.

The Mexican national Rodriguez was in a Chevrolet Suburban van full of illegals that attempted to run over Hernandez after he had stopped the vehicle for running a stop sign April 14, 2005, in Rocksprings, Texas. Firing his weapon at the rear tires, a bullet fragment hit Rodriguez in the mouth, cutting her lip and breaking two teeth.

You cannot shoot a van in the rear tire if it is driving toward you to run you over. He fired his weapon at the van while it was PAST him, and therefore NOT to save himself from imminent danger.

And in doing so, he injured a person who was NOT driving the van, but was a passenger -- a person who he, at the time, suspected of NO wrongdoing.

Of course the mexican government gets involved in cases where it's citizens are victims of violence in our country. Does ANYBODY here think we wouldn't have high-level government contacts with Mexico demanding an investigation and prosecution if a citizen, even one in the country illegally, was shot by a mexican authority, especially for no reason?

It's just another case of WND trying to muddy the waters with trivial distractions, hoping nobody will notice that the facts of the crime itself remaing virtually undisputed.

The article makes a claim I find particularly confusing: Sutton's claim he learned about the identity of the drug smuggler in the Ramos-Compean case, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, through consular contacts originating in Mexico

Nothing in the article gave a quote or a reference to a Sutton statement indicating he learned the identity through consular contacts. That is clearly the inference WND is trying to draw (and note they say there are verbal unrevealed sources for the information), but I didn't see where they tied Sutton to those claims.

Also, the fact the consulate knew about the incident does not contradict the claim that initially Davilas didn't want to go to them with his story (that in fact is what the DHS report tells us happened). The consulate could be informed without his consent, but also it is quite likely that the consulate was involved by the time immunity was granted. After all, we were sending investigators into their country, I've got to think we let them know about that (imagine the stink WND would raise if they found out Mexico sent an investigator into our country to question an american citizen -- but that's exactly what we did with the smuggler).

lAstly, the letter provided does not include a "demand" that we prosecute, it ASKED that we prosecute and that we let them know what we were going to do. No doubt that is a request for prosecution, but WND's wording is meant to imply that we were forced to do something for mexico. But in fact we just did what we should do, investigate claims of wrongdoing by our law enforcement officials against citizens of another country.

I think the rabid anti-illegals crowd forgets that there really are no "illegal humans", just humans who are illegally in a place they aren't supposed to be. We don't kill people for being in the wrong place, especially if they aren't engaging in criminal behavior while they are there. Sure, we want the illegals out of the country, but we don't have the right to shoot them for being here.

[CharlesWayneCT]

No, thanks, I guess, I just wasted another hour of my life reading the same crap and responding to it.

In another thread I got so tired of this I posted a dozen or so facts pointing to guilt for these men, with another bunch of supporting evidence showing how they had hurt their own credibility.

Nobody responded to that yet. I wish we could just post a thread where each side would list all the facts, and we could discuss them, instead of having to show up to the continual WND rehashing of their same talking points which don't deal with the reality of the situation.

[CharlesWayneCT]

OK, the secret is out, so I think I can break the code of silence.

In 2000, Clinton didn't really want Gore to be president, because Gore is, well, creepy, and not very good with women. But Bush, on the other hand, well he was a party animal, someone Clinton could really respect.

So they hatched a plot to throw the election to Bush, by getting some democrat operatives in Palm Beach to screw up the butterfly ballots, throwing Gore votes to Buchanon.

But Clinton forgot to tell his buddies in the media, so they, seeing Gore in trouble, called Florida early to stop the vote in the panhandle.

This nearly gave Gore Florida, led to the nasty recount fight, but note Clinton was pretty silent during that time.

Clinton and Bush are close buddies then and now, and they both can't wait until Mexico is the official capital of our country.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I've found out that I hate Debra Kanof. What a b-i-itch.

You should send that to the defense, they might want to include it in their 5th circuit appeal -- it's such a great statement of the facts on the side of the BP agents.

[NormsRevenge]

LOL.. I hear ya,, A word of advice, take some time off from this one and let it simmer for a bit, it will take a few days to digest the transcripts anyway.

[Dat Mon]

I think you should write a screenplay.

Start thinking who can play ALGORE in the movie.

You get bonus points if you can write Matt Damon and Jennifer Lopez'z ass into the script as well.

[investigateworld]

You forgot where Republican operatives stole that little boy out of Cuba to force Slickmiester to send in machine gun toting federal agents to force him back. (Which the US Gov't allowed the photograph to be published).

I think Rove did that little stunt.

[wolfcreek]

"Mexico wants to intimidate our law enforcement into leaving our border unprotected, and we now have confirmation of it in writing," Culberson said.Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, was equally outraged"


Nuff Said! This should remove all doubt about who our Pres. answers to and where this is leading.

[ovrtaxt]

Bremer protected Sadr? So that's how it went down.

Thanks for the info, I hadn't heard that.

[Iscool]

If George can not or will NOT defend this nation from invasion from Mexico during this war on terror, then he needs to stand down.

And more than that, how can we trust him with Iraq???

Quite clearly, there is no WOT...

[Issaquahking]

Thanks B4Ranch in helping to keep the truth moving forward! I try to link to critical information where neccesary. Too many think that the administration "are just doing their job" and jump up to defend the wrong people.

[Dante3]

Some odd things in Debra Kanof's life. I hope a clever investigative reporter will look into her background as well as her brother.

[radar101]

SO-who is running the US?
Not the voters
Not Bush

[Landru]

"You should direct that comment at someone else. Tony Snow is just the Press Secretary, he's not the President, and he doesn't make policy."

How about Hillary?
Would that work (for you)?

Snow is the voice of our president, is he not?
Can't & won't say anything without it first being approved first, one would hope?

See.
Here's what has me so concerned, MizSterious.
Someone will answer all my questions concerning the travesty of justice that took place down in Texas.
I'd like the answers to be from the right people, 'k.
My president doesn't speak directly with/to me, he uses a "Press Secretary".

My question(s) are directed to the correct person, alright.

...capiche?

[Landru]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1784256/posts

...'nuff said? ;^)