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Census Coincidences [Brilliant Analysis of Duke Hoax]
Durham-in-Wonderland ^ | 12/2/06 | K.C. Johnson

Posted on 01/09/2007 7:40:35 AM PST by freespirited

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An angle that should be followed up on. But probably won't be.

Btw, it would not be necessary to be aware of the Census Bureau website as a source of demographic data. All anyone would have to do is put the name of the towns in a search engine to bring up info about them, or use a source like Wikipedia (it has entries for the home towns of all three indicted players.)

1 posted on 01/09/2007 7:40:37 AM PST by freespirited
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To: Howlin

dukelax ping


2 posted on 01/09/2007 7:51:15 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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To: freespirited; abb; abner; Alia; AmishDude; AntiGuv; BerniesFriend; beyondashadow; Bitter Bierce; ...
DUKELAX PING!!!

This is pretty interesting!

3 posted on 01/09/2007 7:57:59 AM PST by Howlin (Not voting GOP was like being thirsty but not drinking since the glass is only 75% full ~~SoCalPol)
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To: freespirited

This supports the original theory I posted, saying that she delayed identifying the lacrosse players because she was waiting for their credit reports to come back.


4 posted on 01/09/2007 8:02:10 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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But it would still require a very informed knowledge of researching. Even most college students struggle with such assignments. She most probably had to have had help. But who?


5 posted on 01/09/2007 8:06:38 AM PST by twigs
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To: TommyDale

Amazing number of "coincidences" certainly lends credence to this speculation.


6 posted on 01/09/2007 8:09:58 AM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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The accuser’s mother met with civil litigator Willie Gary and told Essence that she was “very much interested” in “getting Gary involved.”

Which Willie Gary? This Willie Gary, mentioned in an article about the super-rich buying new custom jets.

7 posted on 01/09/2007 8:11:08 AM PST by ikka
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It seems difficult to believe that the accuser could have conducted a detailed background check on the players.

But it does not seem difficult to believe that an unethical trial lawyer could have done so. And there were apparently two trial lawyers who were interested in civil suits against the team.

That is not to say that the trial lawyers were involved in the false allegations -- that's probably not true. But when you have the alleged victim involved with the civil lawyers, and at the same time feeling pressured by the cops in the criminal matters ... it simply makes sense that the targets of her civil suit would become targets of a criminal investigation.

8 posted on 01/09/2007 8:11:15 AM PST by r9etb
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She most probably had to have had help. But who?

Civil litigators Willie Gary and Mark Simeon spring immediately to mind. As a practical matter you can't file a civil suit against an entire team; you can file a civil suit against a selected few ... and of course, the "deep pockets" strategy is tried and true.

9 posted on 01/09/2007 8:14:57 AM PST by r9etb
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To: twigs
But it would still require a very informed knowledge of researching. Even most college students struggle with such assignments. She most probably had to have had help. But who?

Her attorneys.

10 posted on 01/09/2007 8:34:00 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Carolinamom
Amazing number of "coincidences" certainly lends credence to this speculation.

What I find most intriguing is that two of the three accused have fathers who have big bucks jobs on Wall Street. Imagine the odds of randomly picking them from a pool of 40-odd players.

11 posted on 01/09/2007 8:38:45 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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"How could she (or anyone else) have realized that the “minister of justice,” desperately needing black votes and with nearly $30,000 of his own money riding on the outcome of the case, would adopt the pretense of acting upon one or more of her myriad, mutually contradictory, stories?"


Maybe she thought he was good enough to find one that would eventually stick.


12 posted on 01/09/2007 8:38:55 AM PST by occu77
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Well, we have proof that Kim was contacting an agency to take advantage of all this, don't we? It's not too far imo from speculating that Precious, given her remark to her boss, also thought of this as her main chance to collect big money from the white boys.


13 posted on 01/09/2007 8:50:40 AM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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Mo' money, mo' money, mo' money!


14 posted on 01/09/2007 9:23:33 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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While it wasn't the reason for the initial lie, she absolutely thought there was going to be a huge check with her name on it.


15 posted on 01/09/2007 9:32:15 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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According to Kim, Precious even wanted to go back into the house...where she had been allegedly and viciously "raped"...because there was MORE money to be made.

I don't doubt for a minute that Precious THOUGHT she'd be rolling in dough after she got through setting these 'white boys' up.

16 posted on 01/09/2007 9:45:42 AM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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I think Gottlieb's descriptions might have been written for Crystal.

He could show them to her with a claim of showing her the "original descriptions" she gave to refresh her memory.


17 posted on 01/09/2007 10:16:57 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Howlin; abb

OT: Naked Parties in the Ivy League.
I guess the Dukies are behind the times.
Why pay for an eyefull when you can get it for free.

http://www.yaleherald.com/article.php?Article=4565
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_party


18 posted on 01/09/2007 10:52:53 AM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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"But who?"

That's a no brainer. Who had the most to gain? I rest my case.
19 posted on 01/09/2007 11:10:35 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (It is good to know that Muslims don't eat pork. At least we aren't dealing with Cannibals.)
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Is this the active thread?

Just want to add a couple of points:

1. Crystal identified four players who "assaulted" her. Gottlieb ignored her fourth (actually her first) choice. Just slid right over it. And as we know, that player was from Durham -- a city with one of the lowest median incomes.

2. How can any of us forget the interview with Cousin It when his/her face visibly lit up when s/he was asked about a civil suit?

There do seem to be a lot of coincidences. And although I don't think this was Crystal's initial motivation to cry rape, I understand why many wonder whether she continued with her lies after someone planted the idea of a lucrative civil suit. I don't think she came up with this idea on her own.

This latest analysis from KC does make you go hmmm.

But how can we heal if we ponder issues such as these?


20 posted on 01/09/2007 12:00:37 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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