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Census Coincidences [Brilliant Analysis of Duke Hoax]
Durham-in-Wonderland ^ | 12/2/06 | K.C. Johnson

Posted on 01/09/2007 7:40:35 AM PST by freespirited

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To: abb
led Duke University to ax its lacrosse coach

Time to start axing some liberal arts professors.

41 posted on 01/09/2007 3:30:05 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: r9etb

Simeon, sure. Willie Gary, no. I know Mangum's mom met with him early on, but with everything that has transpired since then, I doubt that Gary would touch this case with a ten-foot pole. Mangum is too flakey, too trashy, and too impeached for him to take a suit on her behalf. He's a big fish and doesn't want nor need to have his name attached to Mangum. If she went to Gary now, he would refer her to some third-stringer, hungry little fish in a Durham or Raleigh firm.


42 posted on 01/09/2007 3:31:11 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: freespirited

Private database information, like I said 8 months ago.


43 posted on 01/09/2007 3:32:02 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb
Two Duke University lacrosse players charged with sexual assault haven't yet decided whether they will return to the university

Since many of the gang of 88 continue to make hostile statements about the incident, I don't blame them.

Brodhead should clean that place up. If he can't then the trustees should get someone who can.

44 posted on 01/09/2007 3:36:51 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: JLS

She and her boyfriend and/or pimp and their friends could have put their heads together and accomplished it. A PI or a law office could have provided the information on the players' families for a fee, or they could have gotten a referral to a database with the information they need or searched for one themselves on the internet and subscribed for a month. It's not rocket science.


45 posted on 01/09/2007 3:38:41 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

I hope the boy's attorneys are just being coy, and actually there are no plans to return to Duke, leaving Brodhead and Duke to twist in the wind. Of course, they hopefully have explored other university transfer options before deciding this important question and are waiting to here if there's a better option elsewhere.


46 posted on 01/09/2007 3:46:46 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Dukie07

Yes, I know, but those don't reflect the market value or the existing mortgages or other encumbrances. They just show the census tract and maybe the assessed value for taxation.

A county recorder's office has a great deal more information than an assessor's office, but it's a place to start.


47 posted on 01/09/2007 4:04:37 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Dukie07

I seem to remember a request for her computer, but, as far as I know, nothing came of it.

As to the calculating behavior possibly surrounding the choice of the (true) victims in this case, the accused boys, I have a feeling that Mangum's mother has a larger role in this case than we realize.


48 posted on 01/09/2007 4:07:12 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Dukie07
You're thinking of both her cell and her computer.

This came up in one of the early motions by the defense and was discussed at one of the hearings before Judge Stephens. The defense was concerned about safeguarding the data on her computer, IIRC. Here we discussed why LE would even have her computer. There didn't appear to be a subpeona for it.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-22-duke-lacrosse_x.htm?csp=34

Among the items the defense is seeking is an analysis of the accuser's computer, which Nifong said was still pending, and records from the mental health facility where authorities took the woman before she told police she had been raped. The only record from the facility, Nifong said, is a single page from a log book he is still working to obtain.

49 posted on 01/09/2007 4:10:28 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: Jezebelle

"She and her boyfriend and/or pimp and their friends"

Probably had enough dirt on someone with resources....and for a drug taking, alchohol drinking stripper, this is a young woman quite capable of "thinking on her feet" when she's standing.

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50 posted on 01/09/2007 4:13:41 PM PST by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny)
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To: Fido969

Brodhead is a major part of the problem. Whatever, if anything, is done by Duke about the G88, with Brodhead in charge they will lapse right back into the PC BS academia that enabled the G88 in the first place.


51 posted on 01/09/2007 4:23:51 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: sodpoodle

Could be. As I say, the info isn't hard to get. A pimp would be the kind of person who would readily know how to get the information or who to go to, whether he had any dirt on the person or not. It's also not particularly expensive.

I think too much is being made of the question of Mangum's ability to get the information. It's not at all difficult, even for an unsophisticated person like Mangum who no doubt has a lot of street smarts, as you say.


52 posted on 01/09/2007 4:30:48 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

"Mangum's ability to get the information"

Would any (Duke's) student records be available at another (NC State) university - say for instance student loan info?


53 posted on 01/09/2007 4:41:51 PM PST by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny)
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NCCU case
http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-01-09-0006.html


54 posted on 01/09/2007 5:12:20 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Mad-Margaret
I would think the DA's office would have had the home addresses of the 46 lax players prior to the 4/4 ID line up. That's why this seemed odd:

Nifong issued two subpoenas asking Duke University to hand over the home addresses for all of the lacrosse players as well as two other people.(from June 8, 2006)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1645686/posts

55 posted on 01/09/2007 5:14:45 PM PST by Ken H
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From wral.com

Arrest Made in Shooting Death of NCCU Student

Posted: 2 minutes ago

Durham — Sources tell WRAL that Durham police have made an arrest in Greensboro in connection with last week's shooting death of a North Carolina Central student.

The suspect is a Guilford Metro 911 operator, they say. She is being brought back to Durham tonight to face charges.

Authorities said Denita Monique Smith, 25, a graduate student from Charlotte, was shot inside a stairwell of the Campus Crossing Apartments Thursday morning and then fell down several steps to the sidewalk.

A maintenance worker at the apartment complex found her body.

Sources say Durham police arrested the suspect, whose name was not immediately available, at around 7 p.m. with the help of the Greensboro Police Department.

Durham police spent the last five days interviewing more than a dozen people, including Smith's family members, friends and neighbors.

WRAL learned on Monday that investigators were focusing on Greensboro. It was not immediately clear why because Durham police would not confirm the information


56 posted on 01/09/2007 5:29:13 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Ken H

Wasn't that subterfuge? IIRC, Nifong wanted the key cards of all the players. IOW, he wanted to go on a fishing expedition.


57 posted on 01/09/2007 5:46:33 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: abb

http://wral.com/news/local/story/1131742/
Arrest Made in Shooting Death of NCCU Student
Durham police have made an arrest in Greensboro in connection with last week's shooting death of a North Carolina Central student.

Shannon Elizabeth Crawley, whose age was not immediately available, was arrested Tuesday evening in connection with the death of Denita Monique Smith, 25.

Smith, a graduate student from Charlotte, was shot inside a stairwell of the Campus Crossing Apartments Thursday morning and then fell down several steps to the sidewalk.

A maintenance worker at the apartment complex found her body at about 10:15 a.m. Police had responded to an earlier call for shots fired at approximately 8:30 A.M., but found nothing at that time.

Sources tell WRAL that Crawley, a Guilford Metro 911 operator, was arrested at about 7 p.m. She was being brought back to Durham Tuesday evening to face charges.

Police have refused to discuss any possible motives but said that Smith's death did not appear to be a random act of violence.

Detectives spent the last five days interviewing more than a dozen people, including Smith's family members, friends and neighbors.

Investigators also spent several hours Friday interviewing a person of interest in the case. Police said witnesses saw a woman driving away from the apartment complex in a burgundy Ford Explorer less than two hours before Smith's body was found.

WRAL first learned on Monday evening that investigators were focusing their attention in Greensboro. It was not immediately clear why because Durham police would not comment.

In response to the shooting, the Durham Police Department will conduct a Project Safe Neighborhoods Community Response on Wednesday. It is a strategy utilized for violent incidents or crimes likely to have a retaliation effect among those involved.

The response consists of a door-to-door canvassing of the neighborhood where the crime occurred and where the victim live.

Smith received a bachelor's degree in English from N.C. Central and had planned to wrap up her thesis this semester. She was also engaged to a Greensboro police officer.

Her funeral is scheduled for 2 p.m. Thursday at University Park Baptist Church in Charlotte.

Stay tuned to WRAL.com and WRAL-TV for more details as they become available.


58 posted on 01/09/2007 5:49:42 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb


!!!

Wasn't Smith engaged to a Greenboro PO?


59 posted on 01/09/2007 6:03:48 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: abb

Sources tell WRAL that Crawley, a Guilford Metro 911 operator, was arrested at about 7 p.m.

Smith (the victim) received a bachelor's degree in English from N.C. Central- was also engaged to a Greensboro police officer.


A love triangle?


60 posted on 01/09/2007 6:05:28 PM PST by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny)
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