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To: Sherri-D
>"I hope you get it one day and when you do, don't whine to us."

Why how polite of you. Thoughtful too.

Cerially why the anger?

Shure it's a violation of the 4th. However the founders didn't even have the slightest inkling of multi ton vehicles being driven at speeds unimagined by intoxicated citizens.
Drunk driving is a violation to everyone elses 4th, it's just done by induhhviduals instead of a governing institution.

Gotta provide for the common defense. Promote the general welfare.

Either that or just arrest every single person that ever orders a drink at a bar or restaurant then starts his vehicles engine. Actually that would be more effective than "randumb" checkpoints.

The kid could have just simply answered just about anything to the officer, a party, my moms, a friends, Mc Ds, rollerskating, to climb Killamanjaro .... ... see how easy all that BS could have been avoided..

Sometimes we bring our troubles on ourselves, when just a modicum of civility prevents problems. This ISTM Billey Jeff the case in this situation.

481 posted on 01/04/2007 9:05:18 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

This IS NOT the case in this situation. The kid was polite, there was no tank, no drunk driving. I actually would rather it not happen to you, or anyone, but I'll bet it will change your mind when you get harassed by out of control police, breaking the law at their whim, because they can.


492 posted on 01/04/2007 10:02:38 AM PST by Sherri-D (deja moo: The feeling you've heard this bull before)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Shure it's a violation of the 4th. However the founders didn't even have the slightest inkling of multi ton vehicles being driven at speeds unimagined by intoxicated citizens.

I hear this line of reasoning a lot from gun-grabbing libs. I tell them that the founders had every inkling that our needs might change over time, and consequently provided for a way to amend the Constitution. If you don't think the 4th Amendment works for today's problems, the founders gave you a Constitutional solution: amend it. Merely ignoring it is not an option. And if it is, then don't complain when the libs want to ignore the 2nd.

569 posted on 01/04/2007 3:39:42 PM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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