Posted on 01/03/2007 2:08:50 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
"Yeah, I always take a video camera rolling with me every time I drive. (/sarc) "
You must be cop? Let's get this point straight - cops videotape encounters with the public (as they were also in this case they claimed) because they are good.
The public videotapes their encounters with the cops because they are bad.
Is that right?
Probably why JimRob doesn't post anymore. I wouldn't even recognize my own creation if I were him, either.
Wow.
Yer a brave fella!
(IB4TZ! Don't tug on superman/Jim's cape. etc. LOL!)
I am really not a hardass. I am just assertive. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I don't even see them as police officers. I see them as equal citizens.
I think they sense this.
ROFL!!!
You must walk around with a bottle of astroglide for any time you deal with cops.
It's a law of nature that predators target the weak.
Officer #1: Where you headed tonight?
Fester: Are you writing a book? Why not leave that part out and make it a mystery?
I'm very surprised he didn't get his head stomped in. Maybe because the supervisor was there. The real scum cops don't generally make supervisor position, nor do they want it because there is less opportunity to beat people up with little or no reason.
>>>>>>"I just don't know how this place has changed as much as it has in the years since I first joined. I barely recognize the place compared to how it was then. Back during Clinton I's years in office, our mission was to 'roll back a half century of government abuse' and lift the weight of the crushing force of government pressing down upon us and holding bureacratic tyrants accountable. Anyone else remember those days?"<<<<<<
Mrs Cravitz has NOT left the building!
TT
All of those talk about "reasonable grounds". So, refusing to answer a personal question is suddenly "reasonable grounds". Is refusing to let him sleep with your girlfriend in the passenger side also "reasonable grounds"? After all, that is VERY uncooperative.
LOL that tag line.
I may have to borrow it. ;-)
The intent is to get you talking so they can gin up probable cause to give you a breathalizer either though your mannerisms or (preferably) by smelling alcohol on your breath. Happens to me once or twice every year on my boat (I guess I look like a punk or a drunk).
!!!!!!
I would cut them as much slack as the law allowed, but it's the cops who violated the law here!
Why not? The cops do it all the time. In fact, the attempted drawing of a civilian into a potentially self-incriminating conversation is in itself a setup.
You do understand that we're in violent agreement, don't you!?
What I'm concerned about is the flip side. The same cop that "senses" that you are an equal, can 'sense' when they are intimidating a 'non-cop' and will take advantage of the weaker citizens.
If we're going to have cameras looking at us from the traffic light, and from the squad-car dashboard, then 19-yr old kids should have them too, so that everyone stays on an even-keel----instead of just the toughs having rights.
Thank you for your service, Tex. I was a bit disgusted by his post myself. I add your name alongside BeHoldaPaleHorse in my previous post.
YOU understand what service means and why you served.
Way off the points the kid made. Stay with the discussion.
man, you're really stretching it.......
ping me if this ever goes to civil court, wouldja?
Taken together, our decisions in Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz, 496 U. S. 444 (1990), and United States v. Martinez-Fuerte, 428 U. S. 543 (1976), stand for the proposition that suspicionless roadblock seizures are constitutionally permissible if conducted according to a plan that limits the discretion of the officers conducting the stops. I am not convinced that Sitz and Martinez-Fuerte were correctly decided. Indeed, I rather doubt that the Framers of the Fourth Amendment would have considered "reasonable" a program of indiscriminate stops of individuals not suspected of wrongdoing.
I will not join a cop in casual conversation if he is on official duty and he has detained me for any reason, because anything you say, in casual conversation , no matter what, can be used against you,in a court of law, for any reason whatsoever. I have been a passenger in a vehicle stopped for speeding and asked if I had a drivers licence for ID. Told them I was not driving and didn't need a license to ride. Then was asked if I had ID period and told them I didn't need ID to move about in this country. You see, the cop never asked me to show him an ID, only asked if I had one. If you ever listen closely how cops construct their questions, they play on the stupidity of the person being asked." You have an ID? Sure, here."
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