[rovenstinez]

Just that class we don't teach anymore in kindergarten. Every choice has a consequence. Time people understood that the rest of the world can't bail them out for their failures to make right choices. A better choice would have been to go up to the sights of Mt. Hood on July 4th.

[goldstategop]

No you can't. If you're an experienced mountaineer, you go in the toughest conditions so you know what Nature throws at you and that you can survive. High mountain latitudes are deceptive. A snowstorm can happen anytime, even in summer.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus