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Thoughts on Firearms Training and Militias (Vanity)
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Posted on 12/08/2006 1:43:45 PM PST by Domandred

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1 posted on 12/08/2006 1:43:47 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Domandred
The Second Amendent says "A well-regulated Militia." If you don't think that the stack of gun laws and restrictions we have on the books now is "well regulated" then I don't know what is!

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2 posted on 12/08/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Domandred

Hey, we now have "An Army of One"...why not
"A Militia of One!"

works for me!


3 posted on 12/08/2006 1:53:39 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Domandred
'worthless if you do not have proper training'.

If you're looking for a fun way to meet the goals of military firearm range shooting--seek out the Civilian Marksmanship Program. That is what it was created for--to encourage civilian rifle training.

If you're looking beyond the shooting, and want to meet some level headed folks of a like mind you might do pretty well at a CMP shoot. They won't tollerate the unsafe and won't put up with bizarro crap very well (ie. the Nazi types and racists). Once more, they often attract prior service folks who want to keep their skills honed and are up on current events.
4 posted on 12/08/2006 5:24:50 PM PST by Neo-Luddite ("Don't believe your own bulls*hit, that's the first sign you're in trouble".)
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To: Domandred

NRA high Power rifle matches to learn how to shoot a rifle.
International Defensive Pistol Association matches to learn how to shoot a handgun.

Buy a Dillon 550 reloading press so you can afford to shoot.


5 posted on 12/08/2006 5:39:03 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Neo-Luddite; Shooter 2.5

Thanks for the tips, I'll look into them. Local solutions for me seem to be somewhat lacking. I know they have to be available, just don't seem easy to find.


6 posted on 12/08/2006 5:59:40 PM PST by Domandred
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Look up WWW.fredsm14stocks.com and read about the "appleseed" program. click on latest, then appleseed,
or read the "rifleman" articles.

they are currently traveling the country putting on these courses.

Tet.


7 posted on 12/08/2006 6:07:40 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Domandred

You don't say where you're located but the IDPA has a website which lists the matches across the country. The NRA has a newspaper called Shooting Sports USA which lists the High Power rifle matches.

Shooting the NRA match qualifies you with the CMP so you can buy ammo and rifles such as garands and 1903 Springfields.


8 posted on 12/08/2006 6:42:44 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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http://www.nrapublications.org/sh.%20sports/highpowerrifle.asp

I didn't know Shooting Sports had a website with the monthly schedules. If you're not interested in High Power Rifle, there's all kinds of fun you can have with matches.


9 posted on 12/08/2006 6:48:41 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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"NRA high Power rifle matches to learn how to shoot a rifle. "

The proper way:

(1) no scope

(2) no bench

(3) no cutesy bipod.

Just you, the rifle, and a M1907 sling.
10 posted on 12/08/2006 6:57:30 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
International Defensive Pistol Association matches to learn how to shoot a handgun.
You could also say:

{1} No scope or red dots
{2} No extended magazines
{3} No compensators
{4} No tricked out magazine holders making you look like a porcupine
{5} No outrageous holsters which barely suspend the handgun to your side
Just you and a storebought handgun, some ammo and realistic street scenarios some of which had really happened to armed citizens.
11 posted on 12/08/2006 7:12:59 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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"Just you and a storebought handgun, some ammo and realistic street scenarios some of which had really happened to armed citizens."

Best way to do it.
12 posted on 12/08/2006 7:30:06 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Shooter 2.5

IDPA has a branch, chapter, not sure the correct word is in Parma, at the Parma Rod & Gun Club bout a 45 minute drive for me. Much better then Post Falls or Coeur d'Alene which is the other locations I had found that were making me frustrated, all day drive to both places.

Membership is reasonable and from the website looks like just the type of range I was looking for, long range, short range, tactical, etc etc, instead of just the 100 yard max ranged stationary stand up target ranges that I have in my immediate area. Ouch run on sentence.

They also have CMP and an automatic weapons owners club that meet there.

Don't think I would have found them quickly without the heads up on IDPA and CMP.

Thanks guys, I'll be having to check them out soon.


13 posted on 12/08/2006 9:26:59 PM PST by Domandred
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To: austinaero; All

How about something akin to the Boer commando's of the second Anglo-Boer war


14 posted on 12/09/2006 3:07:31 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Domandred
There are companies that provide tactical firearms training, for example http://www.tacticalresponse.com
15 posted on 12/10/2006 5:12:21 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Neo-Luddite

Bump that. The DCM/CMP program is apparently the only US-supplied training for the "unorganized militia". While relatively lame, it's at least the minimum and everyone should consider taking the class as their civic duty.


16 posted on 12/11/2006 12:07:12 PM PST by ctdonath2
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The scope is limited. But as far as rifle instruction goes they do a pretty good job. If you're looking for a 'Blackwater' type experience in terms of training you won't get it at a CMP shoot.

It's a miracle that it is still around, and it stays below the radar of most liberal politicos because it doesn't look like it is doing what it is doing. It also is quietly ensuring a future for the goverment's remaining stockpile of M-1 Garands that would otherwise be cut up for scrap.


17 posted on 12/11/2006 2:34:06 PM PST by Neo-Luddite
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To: ctdonath2


The scope is limited. But as far as rifle instruction goes they do a pretty good job. If you're looking for a 'Blackwater' type experience in terms of training you won't get it at a CMP shoot.

It's a miracle that it is still around, and it stays below the radar of most liberal politicos because it doesn't look like it is doing what it is doing. It also is quietly ensuring a future for the goverment's remaining stockpile of M-1 Garands that would otherwise be cut up for scrap.


18 posted on 12/11/2006 2:34:17 PM PST by Neo-Luddite
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To: ctdonath2


The scope is limited. But as far as rifle instruction goes they do a pretty good job. If you're looking for a 'Blackwater' type experience in terms of training you won't get it at a CMP shoot.

It's a miracle that it is still around, and it stays below the radar of most liberal politicos because it doesn't look like it is doing what it is doing. It also is quietly ensuring a future for the goverment's remaining stockpile of M-1 Garands that would otherwise be cut up for scrap.


19 posted on 12/11/2006 2:34:25 PM PST by Neo-Luddite
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One soldier with a rifle won't get it done. The regiment will have to do some training so they can act together and possibly survive their first encounter with the enemy. Marksmanship is just for starters.


20 posted on 12/11/2006 2:37:36 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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