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Is the L.A. Times Repeating Enemy Propaganda?
Patterico's Pontifications ^ | 11/24/2006 | Patterico

Posted on 11/25/2006 1:27:51 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

I don’t have the resources of the L.A. Times. Yet in my spare time from my full-time job, using widely available resources on the Web and contacts built up through blogging, I probably got a more accurate picture of what happened in Ramadi on November 13 than the paid reporter for the L.A. Times did.

In doing so, I found I learned something important about reporting from Iraq in general. Big Media journalists often rely on sources that are unreliable. They don’t tell you the pressures these sources might be under from insurgents and terrorists. They refuse to tell you who their stringers are, so we can assess their motivations. They get quotes from doctors who seem to see only civilian deaths. If the military has been given insufficient time to respond to an allegation, these journalists don’t check with the military later, to verify that the story they’ve written is accurate. And sometimes, as here, their stories are completely at odds with numerous other accounts reported in other press outlets — and they seem to have no interest in finding out why.

It’s very sobering to realize that much of the news coming out of Iraq is completely unreliable. And it’s a bigger issue than whether the L.A. Times got a single story wrong on November 15.

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All you hand-wringing cut & runners need to reevaluate the source of your pessimism. If your sources of information are AP, al-Reuters, al-CNN, or any of the rest of the MSM, you don't know what you're talking about.
1 posted on 11/25/2006 1:27:53 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Ditto. Also everyting the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and any other "neutral" anti-war organisation tries to sell us for reality.


2 posted on 11/25/2006 1:44:54 AM PST by SolidWood
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
The American reporter is in a bunker in the Green Zone with several cell phones from which he receives "news" from rattled, politically dubious Iraqi "stringers" who are where the the noise is loud and the arms and legs are flying. The American reporter, made courageous by Xanax and Whiskey, collates the incoming calls into a coherent AP or Reuters article with a headline like: 'U.S. Tripped Up Again' and sends it to his bureau chief.
3 posted on 11/25/2006 2:05:51 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Is someone asking if bears poop at the Vatican?


4 posted on 11/25/2006 2:40:21 AM PST by Dahoser (It's going to be a long and miserable two years.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Well, the enemedia has already stated if they use releases from our military, it is considered propoganda.
Now the inverse couldn't be true also, could it?
5 posted on 11/25/2006 3:04:13 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"Repeating enemy propaganda?" No, I don't think they are. That insinuates that there's at least some innocense, as if they don't quite realize what they're doing. No, I think that the NY & LA times not only know that they're aiding the enemy in their war against the US, they purposely and actively work for the enemy. Well, maybe that's a little bit strong. But they're certainly working hard AGAINST the US. I suppose that's a difference that allows them to sleep at night, but it's not much of a difference.

Mark

6 posted on 11/25/2006 3:19:44 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Is the L.A. Times Repeating Enemy Propaganda?

It's worse than that.
The LA Times actively seeks information damaging to the interests
of the USA and then publishes it.

E.g., printing a detailed description of putative American "operators"
in Afghanistan just days prior to the punitive strike following 9-11.
7 posted on 11/25/2006 3:28:04 AM PST by VOA
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

They sure-as-hell hope so!!


8 posted on 11/25/2006 4:16:08 AM PST by Waco
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Allegra

I get my Iraq news from many places, but The Allegra Times in Baghdad is the best source of up to the minute TRUE news from Iraq! :-)

LLS


9 posted on 11/25/2006 4:33:04 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: TheCrusader; Cannoneer No. 4
Ping to Post 1.

And the rest of it.

10 posted on 11/25/2006 5:22:02 AM PST by Allegra (Declaring Full Jihad on the Cut-and-Run Surrender Monkeys)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
All you hand-wringing cut & runners need to reevaluate the source of your pessimism. If your sources of information are AP, al-Reuters, al-CNN, or any of the rest of the MSM, you don't know what you're talking about.

Well that is where public opinion is formed and why the GOP lost the last election so Perception is Reality
11 posted on 11/25/2006 5:36:27 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Bump. Same question could be asked about prosecutors (and DOD "sources") who are trying to pin something on the Kilo Company Marines who were hit with an IED in Haditha.


12 posted on 11/25/2006 6:00:43 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Do they have a website? If so, please provide.


13 posted on 11/25/2006 6:14:08 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: uncbob

Reality is reality. The perception is being created by a highly successful al Qaeda psychological operation which would not be possible without the active participation of the American media.


14 posted on 11/25/2006 6:42:41 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Either we bring them freedom, or they destroy us.)
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To: flynmudd
My warped sense of humor... sorry. Allegra is a Freeper that has been in Baghdad for three years. She knows what is really going on... and it is not what charlie gibson and the dbm say is going on! Again, my apology!

LLS
15 posted on 11/25/2006 7:09:31 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: All; Cannoneer No. 4

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The Late Los Angeles Times Media Critic DAVID SHAW:


RATHER's work 'Sloppy, Slipshod' not LIBERAL..?

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227809/posts

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16 posted on 11/25/2006 7:24:43 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

No problem. Just wishful thinking that the truth is out there somewhere.


17 posted on 11/25/2006 7:25:16 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

What do you think I was saying


18 posted on 11/25/2006 7:51:07 AM PST by uncbob
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To: flynmudd

If Allegra says it... it's TRUE!

LLS


19 posted on 11/25/2006 7:58:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
...these journalists don’t check with the military later, to verify that the story they’ve written is accurate.

That's because the military's their enemy.

20 posted on 11/25/2006 8:01:43 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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