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(Voice of Iraq) - 10-21-2006 | ارسل هذا الموضوع لصديقThis issue was sent to a friend Sotaliraq.com الشارع العراقي ينتظر من مؤتمر مكة نتائج تنقله لبر الأمانThe Iraqi street waiting for the results of the Mecca carrying righteousness safety رجال دين شيعة وساسة يرحبون باللقاءShiite clerics and politicians welcomed the meeting بغداد: «الشرق الأوسط»BAGHDAD : «» Middle East ترقب الشارع العراقي أمس التوقيع على «وثيقة مكة» التي تحرم الاقتتال المذهبي في العراق، خاصة وانه يحظى بدعم ومباركة شخصيات سياسية ودينية لها أثرها في الشارع العراقي المضطرب وفي مقدمتهم المرجع الشيعي آية الله علي السيستاني.Anticipation Iraqi street yesterday to sign the document «» Mecca, which prohibits sectarian fighting in Iraq. particularly as it has the support and blessing of political and religious figures have an impact on the Iraqi street, troubled at the airport with Shiite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. سليم عبد الله، عضو اللجنة الدستورية والقانونية في البرلمان، يقول «ان العراق يعيش ظرفا امنيا صعبا وانقلابا خطيرا بالأوضاع وعليه سيكون التعويل على مقررات المؤتمر بشكل كبير جدا»، مشيرا الى ان «الشارع العراقي يعول كثيرا على نجاح المؤتمر وحتى السياسيين منهم، سيما وان المؤتمر لاقى الدعم الكامل لإنجاحه ومن قبل جميع الاطراف متمثلة بالسيد السيستاني والزعيم الشيعي الشاب مقتدى الصدر وحتى هيئة علماء المسلمين لم يكن لديها اي تحفظات على هذا المؤتمر، وكلها امور تعكس الرغبة بوقف العنف الدائر في البلاد».Salim Abdullah, a member of the constitutional and legal in Parliament, «says that Iraq is living in difficult circumstance security and a dangerous situation and it will rely on the decisions of the Conference is a very large», He pointed out that «the Iraqi street, relies heavily on the success of the conference and even politicians whom, especially since the Christians full support to make it a success is by all parties represented Mr. Sistani, and young Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr and even the Association of Muslim Scholars did not have any reservations about such a conference, all of which reflects the desire to stop the ongoing violence in the country ». وعن اختلاف مؤتمر مكة عن باقي مؤتمرات المصالحة التي اقيمت في العراق وخارجه، قال عبد الله لـ«الشرق الاوسط» انه «بالنسبة لمؤتمرات مثل التي اقيمت في القاهرة او التي اقيمت في بغداد، هناك جملة ملاحظات مسبقة حيالها، سيما وان الذي يدير هذه المؤتمرات هم السياسيون انفسهم اضافة الى عدم الثقة الموجودة بينهم، وهذا ما افشل نوعا ما المؤتمرات السابقة سيما بعدم تفعيل مقرراتها بالشكل الصحيح».And different from the rest of the Mecca reconciliation conferences held in and outside Iraq, Abdullah said the Middle East told «» that «for such conferences held in Cairo, which was held in Baghdad. there are a number of observations advance towards them. especially since that runs these conferences are the politicians themselves in addition to the existing lack of confidence in them, This is the worst kind of previous conferences particular decisions not to activate the correct format ». وزاد «قيمة مؤتمر مكة هو انه يرعى من دول الجوار وله مسحة اسلامية، ناهيك عن كونه يركز على حقن الدماء ويستند الى التهدئة والظهور بخطاب واضح يمكن العمل به».«The increased value of the Mecca is that sponsors of the neighboring countries surveyed with Islamic, not to mention that it focuses on the bloodshed and based on the appearance of calm and clear discourse can work ». من جهته، قال علي الاديب، عضو الائتلاف، لـ«الشرق الاوسط»: «نحن نأمل من المؤتمر ان يحقق المطلوب، وأنا اعتقد ان الدول التي تبنت المؤتمر تسعى الى ان يعم الأمن العراق».For his part, the writer, a member of the coalition, l «» Middle East : «We hope the conference to achieve the required I believe that the countries that sponsored the conference seeks to prevail in Iraq, the Security ». وعن مدى نجاح المؤتمر، فيما اذا برزت خلافات، قال الاديب «الاختلاف موجود، ولكننا نركز على قدسية المكان الذي عقد فيه المؤتمر، سيما وان هناك دولا اسلامية مشاركة كلها امور يجب ان توظف لإنجاح المؤتمر، بالإضافة الى ان الحكومات التي تدعم المؤتمر جادة وحريصة على تفعيل الوثيقة التي سيخرج بها المؤتمر (صلح مكة)»، مضيفا «نتمنى ان يأتلف المؤتمرون على الحد الادنى من الاتفاق، وعلى إيقاف اطلاق النار وإيقاف نزيف الدم، لنعود بعدها الى بناء العراق».And the success of the conference, as if differences have emerged. said writer «difference exists, but we focus on the sanctity of the place where the conference was held, especially since there is participation of all Islamic states things must be employed to make the conference successful. in addition to the fact that governments which support the serious and keen on activating the document to come out of the Conference (Magistrate Mecca) », adding «conferees hope that gets a minimum of agreement, and to stop shooting and to stop the bloodshed, Back then to the building of Iraq ». الى ذلك، اكد حميد مجيد موسى، عضو الكتلة العراقية، «كل مؤتمر يعلن النية الحسنة ويسعى الى الاستقرار الامني وإيقاف العنف، سوف يحظى بمساندتنا»، وقال لـ«الشرق الاوسط» اذا توصلت الارادة السياسية الصحيحة بأن تخلق مزاجا عاما طبيعيا وبمقررات تطبقها على الارض، فبالتالي هذا الموضوع سيقودنا الى مصالحة وطنية حقيقية».To confirm Hamid Majid Moussa, member of Iraqi bloc, «each conference announced goodwill and seeks to maintain security and stop the violence. will enjoy Bmsandtna », He told the Middle East »« if the political will to create the right mood years natural and decisions applied on the ground, Eventually this issue will lead us to true national reconciliation ». وعن اهمية المؤتمر أكد مجيد موسى «أهمية المؤتمر انه ينعقد برعاية ودعم خارجي ومن دولة جارة وبدعم الجامعة العربية، وكلهم يسعون الى تقريب وجهات النظر وبآليات تأخذ طريقها الى التنفيذ».Regarding the importance of the conference «Majeed Moussa stressed the importance of the conference it was taking place under the auspices of the external support is a neighbor and the support of the Arab League. and they are all trying to bridge the gap in viewpoints and mechanisms to move ahead to the implementation ». الى ذلك، رحب رجال دين شيعة في النجف وكربلاء في خطب الجمعة أمس بمؤتمر مكة، منتقدين في الوقت نفسه دور الدول المجاورة للعراق.So, The Shiite clerics in Najaf and Karbala in Friday sermons yesterday with the Mecca. critics at the same time the role of Iraq's neighboring countries. وقال السيد ياسين الموسوي القيادي في المجلس الاعلى للثورة الاسلامية في العراق بزعامة عبد العزيز الحكيم في خطبة صلاة الجمعة في مسجد الفاطمية في النجف، ان «مجرد الانفتاح على العراق والمشاركة في حل مشكلة الدم العراقي من قبل اخوتنا..هو امر جيد».He said Yassin al-Musawi, a leader of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq headed by Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, in a Friday sermon in a mosque in Najaf, Fatimid, «The mere opening up to Iraq and participate in solving the problem of blood by the Iraqi brothers. »is a good thing. وأضاف «نتحمل الجراح من أجل ان تقتنعوا بحرمة الدم السني والشيعي (...) والمهم ان تطبق بنود الاتفاقية على الارض ...نتمنى ان تعودوا بحرمة الدم».He added «bear the wounds for the sanctity of blood Tekatnawa Sunni and Shiite (...) The important thing is to apply the terms of the Convention on the ground ... We hope that the sanctity of the blood back ». وفي كربلاء، قال السيد أحمد الصافي ممثل المرجع الشيعي الكبير آية الله علي السيستاني إن «مؤتمر مكة خطوة مباركة ومهمة جدا، وكنا نتمناه قبل هذا اليوم»، مشيرا الى انه اذا «خرج المؤتمر بمقررات فيجب الالتزام بها وان شاء الله سيتمخض بعوامل مساعدة لاستقرار الوضع في العراق».In Karbala, Mr. Ahmed said net representative of the Shiite religious authority, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani that «the Mecca step blessing and very important. and we would have liked before this day », He pointed out that if «The conference decisions must abide by them and, God willing, it will help the factors to the stability of the situation in Iraq». وأضاف ان «دعوتنا ان يستشعر الجميع خطر ما نحن فيه والصراع الموجود الآن»، مؤكدا ان «الصراع الموجود هو ليس طائفيا، بل صراع سياسي».He added that «our knowing everybody danger where we are now exists and conflict», «stressing that the conflict is rather not sectarian, but political conflict ». وشدد الصافي في خطبته في مرقد الامام الحسين في وسط كربلاء، على ان «المؤتمر يجب ان يتضمن بنودا منها ان يستشعر السني والشيعي أن هذا البلد بلده ولا بد ان يعرف الشيعي حدود السني والسني يعرف حدود الشيعي وإذا لم نعرف حدود بعضنا البعض لا شك أن المعادلة ستكون فوضوية».He stressed the net in his Friday sermon at the Imam Hussein in central Karbala, «that the conference should include items from knowing the Sunni and Shiite town that the country must know the limits of the Sunni and Shiite, Sunni, Shiite and defines the limits if we did not know each other's borders there can be no doubt that the equation will be chaotic». وانتقد الصافي دول الجوار العراقي، زاعما ان «دور دول الجوار العراقي لم يكن ايجابيا وطيبا».He criticized net Iraqi neighboring states, «alleging that the role of the Iraqi neighboring states was not positive and good». وقال «ن بعض الجماعات اشترت الجنة بدماء العراقيين».He said some groups «n Paradise bought the blood of Iraqis».

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ITM That Mecca document.

Shia and Sunni Iraqi clerics were in Mecca last night to sign a document (or decree or treaty or whatever its name is!).

In my opinion choosing Mecca was not only for religious or spiritual reasons, actually I tend to believe that Saudi Arabia offered to host the meeting with such enthusiasm only to improve its image and change the general impression about it so that it's viewed as a country that supports peace and tolerance instead of a country that breeds extremism.

What the clerics agreed upon in that paper was no more than the fundamental fact and the first (or second) commandment in all religions; that is "murder is wrong". How absurd and demeaning is that! As if they had to go to Holy Mecca to realize that murder is a crime. And as if they were admitting that until last night each sect's clerics didn't consider it a crime to murder someone from a different sect. Frankly I suspect there was never a time when they considered it a crime and I don't think signing that paper changed a thing.

With very rare exceptions, clerics are hypocrites who wear different faces for different times, situations and places, so all in all, I'm not expecting anything from that paper. Like Saudi Arabia, I think they went there and signed that paper also merely to improve their image and to pretend that they were/are not the ones to blame for the daily bloodshed in Iraq.

They want to satisfy their dead conscience and convince themselves that they had done their part of the job by signing that paper and that it's up to the people now to stop killing each other! As if it wasn't the militias they run and tensions they create that are causing the sectarian violence.

There's one other important point about the meeting that makes it rather impossible to expect it to make a difference on the ground; the two most vicious murderous factions that are responsible for most of the sectarian violence, i.e. al-Qaeda and Sadr's militia will not drop their weapons or stop their crimes just because some clerics signed a decree.

However, the document can possibly be of practical value only if it gets used in the right way; that is since the document alienates anyone who violates the points stated within, the MNF and the reluctant PM Maliki can take advantage of it and do what they have to do with people like Sadr who had long enjoyed unwritten immunity.

I mean if Sadr or certain Sunni groups refuse to abide by the articles of the decree and continue doing their daily dirty job then clerics and religious parties that signed the decree will have the pretext to stop the government or the MNF from taking action against them.

Still, this is just in theory.