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To: BlackElk
If you think that attacking Henry Hyde and Chris Smith is a priority, then you need new hobbies. >>>

attacking? you are joking right? Their record is public. They voted to fund the country's largest abortion provider in the nation. An organization that promotes anal sex to teenagers. I'm just pointing out the truth. They fund the worst organization in America with $Billions. PP in turn works wholeheartedly AGAINST us in every election and for every bill and the pro-lifers should just sit back and allow this to happen???? Nope, sorry, I won't. Planned Parenthood is the enemy and the pro life republicans fund them yearly. And those who fund planned parenthood are just as guilty. I did not say we should not vote for these individuals. I think what we, as Americans and Christians, should do is point out their wrong doings. By sitting back and doing nothing is a big mistake and a sin. Every time I pass a PP clinic I am reminded that pro-life champions in congrss voted to fund them. Every time I hear Santorums name mentioned I think of the pro life Toomey who could have been Senator. We know the truth and the truth is staring us right in the face. It's funny that you want us to write our congressmen to pass a certain pro life bill but when our congressmen write a bill that funds the biggest baby killing group in the nation you want his to remain reticent and do nothing.

We have to touch the very mind, heart and souls of these men, so that when this wrong is presented to them again they vote for rightousness, life and truth. They have the power to close planned parenthood and it's up to us to give them the strength to do so.

14 posted on 09/25/2006 10:29:49 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: Coleus
BTW, "pro-life" Pat Toomey was elected to Congress as a pro-abort and then later discovered that he had become "pro-life" when he decided to challenge Arlen Spector. There is maybe a 20% likelihood that Toomey is actually a pro-lifer and a lesser chance that he would have been elected if nominated against a Philadelphia are pro-abort former Congressman.

Spector is a reasonably honest if somewhat loopy (Scottish law) pro-abort who, due to a brain tumor, has one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel and he is very old. Faced with a genuinely pro-life challenge from a state legislator with actual pro-life credentials two primaries ago, Spector (one of America's 5 or 10 best trial lawyers) masterfully destroyed Anita Hill with the assistance of research provided by a lady (not his staffer but a White House staffer) then-named Lee Libermann who came up with the literary sources of Hill's lies about pubic hairs on the Coke can and something else. Spector voted for Clarence Thomas and his demolition of Hill made the difference in the confirmation vote.

Unlikely though it may seem at the moment, if Lynn Swann is elected Pennsylvania governor and Santorum re-elected (much more likely), Swann may well appoint Spector's successor. Otherwise Rendell will do the appointing of someone who will be defeated by the next GOP candidate. If you live in New Jersey and near Pennsylvania, you might devote your efforts to promoting Melissa Hart for that seat or more likely an Eastern Pennsylvania pro-lifer acceptable to Western Pennsylvania since Pennsylvania has a tradition of one senator from each of East and West.

A problem is that our candidates are neither nominated nor elected by pronunciamento (Euro for fatwa). It takes a lot more elbow grease than opinionating. It takes political planning and organizing. It takes money. It takes cooperation with folks who disagree with us on abortion but really care much more about freedom generally or guns or even honesty and integrity in public life. It takes the best of GetOutTheVote (GOTV) machines. It takes networking with groups who care about guns (as you do), taxes (as you do), jobs, economy, WOT, military spending, hunting and fishing rights, and a lot of other issues not directly pro-life.

BTW, we are both Catholic and 4th Degree K of C.

Actually, I want you and me and all of us prolifers to adequately prepare for our battles, not substitute bellyaching for the necessary hard work (you may well be working your backside off and that is not a personal attack on you), have the self-discipline to focus on what can be done and to prioritize in the war against our common enemies. We ought never to squabble in public for their entertainment or their excitement or their satisfaction or for any other reason. Maintain a solid deep wall of resistance to the pro-aborts.

Why doesn't the pro-life movement highlight Jim Sedlak's STOPP organization and force defunding Planned Barrenhood to the front burner? I don't disagree with your goals. I disagree with your strategy and your tactics if they include going after Henry Hyde and Chris Smith.

Politics is played in the real world. We will win in the real world. We will not win as a collection of self-directed individualists, each speeding along his or her own path. We will win as a political/religious movement, capable and determined to administering a disciplined political beating to our enemies.

15 posted on 09/25/2006 1:38:24 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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