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To: Salem
I agree with Adam... Captain Ed missed the whole point. I have no idea if Steve Centanni is a Christian... and if he is... that he takes his faith seriously... but he was given THE CHOICE. The same choice that the Martyrs of Christianity were given countless times over the past 2000 years. The same choice Jews were given during The Inquisition... CONVERT OR DIE.

Captain Ed looks at it from them vs. us perspective... but when you boil it down... it wasn't. It was Centanni sacrificing his faith... for his life.

3 posted on 09/04/2006 1:31:57 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: johnny7
This reminded me of the Christian Arab in the Khobar incident who lied to save his life. If you read through the whole thread you will see the same reasoning.

I don't know if the two were Christians either. If they weren't, their conduct wouldn't surprise anybody.

But anybody who professed to be a Christian? Whole other story.

Mt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

I am a professing Christian. But if I were in a scenario where an Islamic thug was threatening to kill me if I didn't renounce Jesus Christ and worship Allah, I have to confess, I would probably resist not because I am guaranteed eternity because of the truth of the Gospel and the promises of God, the highest and noble expression of that resistance.

I'd do it just to PO the thugs.

That's just me, though.

4 posted on 09/04/2006 1:52:32 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: johnny7
Only someone really stupid would believe Centanni converted. No way did he sacrifice his religion and converted. He did the right thing and under the same circumstance you most likely would act in the same way. I presume anyone who would fault him would also oppose criminal undercover operations, spies, etc.
7 posted on 09/04/2006 2:08:11 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: johnny7
Captain Ed looks at it from them vs. us perspective... but when you boil it down... it wasn't. It was Centanni sacrificing his faith... for his life.

No, In all due respect, I think you're wrong. IF Steve was NOT a Christian in the first place, he wouldn't know anything about denying Christ. It's pretty obvious that he was not or else he wouldn't have wondered if he was really a Muslim after his forced conversion.

Suppose this whole event made him realize that he needs God, and he becomes a Christian. Wouldn't that give him a tremendous Testimony to the saving Grace of the Lord? We already know that they wanted to kill Steve, but they didn't. I don't think anyone knows more than Steve does just how close he came to dying. Not many people who are kidnapped by these animals ever come back alive. He's definitely got a story to tell. I would imagine he did a lot of crying out to God and prayed non stop until his release. :o)

11 posted on 09/04/2006 3:27:29 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (ISLAM IS A CULT OF DEATH AND NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!)
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