Posted on 08/30/2006 8:36:23 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
Very good, very good. Bush is a model of decorum, respect, and just plain old good manners.
Great post. I actually wasn't aware there was a way for a non-Catholic to respectfully commune. Glad to know otherwise.
That was so ignorant when Clinton did that. Do Baptists even have Communion at all, ever?
Before he was an Archbishop and Cardinal, he was a Rear Admiral in the Navy Chaplain Corps and the Divisional Chaplain of the 1st Marine Division during its deployment to Vietnam.
God bless George and Laura.
Well Baptist generally have communion I think every three months. That by the way I is a closed communion also. But Clinton knew what he was doing. There area ton of Catholic in Arkansas so he knew the protocal. I suspect he did it on purpose knowing it would raise a commotion just to be the center of the news cycle
You know I had no idea till I read this that O Conner was involved in the Military. Interesting. I wish they would have highlighted that more at his death.
Yes we Baptists have communion, but we call it Lord's Supper. There isn't a set time for us to have it, but only as the Lord said "as oft as you do this." In my church, it is quarterly on a fifth Sunday. It does not have the same meaning as in Catholic churches ; rather, is a memorial "supper". "As often as you do this, do it in rememberance of me." It is a solemn time for the believer to examine their hearts and remember what Jesus has done for us.
Some Baptist Churches have closed communion (only the local body of believers can participate), some "close" communion (other churches that believe like we do, Sister churches have you may participate) and others Open Communion (all believers may participate - usually baptized believers).
Hope this helps.
Clinton's issues as a "Baptist" were a lot deeper than communion though. The likes of he and Carter make me cringe when I think they were part of my denomination.
The President's respect for Catholic protocol is laudable and his humility before the Lord is inspiring!
I thank God every day that this good man is our president!
You know that brings up a related subject. I have been meaning too look up. I swear the Southern Baptist Church issued a statement at one time on the need to convert the Jews. Well I remember Clinton piped up at a News Conference no less and said he thought that was inappropriate. My thought was why in the World is the President of the United States even commenting on that.
They did. Got in big trouble for it too in the press; but, if you believe that the only way you get into Heaven is through explicit belief in Christ then it is a quite loving and humane attitude to have. I mean if a friend is heading for a door that opens to an abyss, do you not warn him of the danger ahead. That's all the Southern Baptists were saying. They didn't want Jewish people dying lost. Most evangelical Southern Baptists love the Jewish people regardless if they convert to Christianity or not.
As for Clinton, his commenting on a matter of theology is inappropriate; however, whenever he wanted to he made sure that he would misapply Scripture for his own political points. Clinton as preacher? That's inappropriate!
By the way, we also put out pamphlets on the need to convert Muslims, Hindus, Mormons, etc., Jews weren't singled out in some anti-semitic rant.
Oh I agree. I mean I had no problem whatsoever what the SBC did. In fact I think that should be the attitude of all Christians. I wasnt so sure why there was a uproar about it myself.
I guess I was extremely upset that Clinton got involved in that stuff. Especially at a offical Press Conference. I mean I was pretty shocked that a President was telling a religious Group in this country that he thought it was "inappropriate". I suppose if that had been done in lets say a interview by "Christianity Today" that might have been different. BUt I thought it really was a bad move on his part.
Well, Southern Baptists, like Catholics, have their liberal wing, which of course, is not driven by Scripture as much as emotion and personal opinions.
He didn't do it in ignorance. He attended Georgetown, which is a Catholic University. He should have known better.
"Hope this helps."
Thanks, it did, very informative. As for Clinton and Carter, who is worse? I'd have to say Carter. One thing about Clinton, at least one knows that he knows that he's a sinner, something we'd all do well to remember about ourselves. Carter, otoh, thinks himself a saint and has become truly unbearable. And I never get the impression that Clinton hates America, unlike his wife and Jimmuh C.
"He attended Georgetown, which is a Catholic University. He should have known better."
Good point, but if we're relying on Georgetown to convey Catholic Doctrine, that hope may be misplaced. But I think Clinton went to Catholic elementary school also, so you are quite right, he probably DID know better.
Carter is self-exalted & prideful. Clinton is prideful also in that he may know he's a sinner but revels in his sin and really sees no reason to repent. Life is all about him, and if he can make a pious show for God then all the better for HIS reputation.
As for hating America, I don't know motivation, but selling our secrets to our enemies wasn't exactly a public display of affection.
Neither one is where they should be. But Carter is the harder to take. At least Clinton has a likeable side to him. Carter has NO redeeming qualities.
Not much to say, except class vs trash. The impeached had no class, he was just a big hunk of trash. I hated having to serve in the armed forces with him as the CiC.
Even though I don't agree with everything the President is doing, at least I feel he is keeping our military in much better state of readiness.
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