Posted on 08/08/2006 8:22:17 PM PDT by dukeman
The mind of a left wing moonbat passes through many phases as it struggles to cope with reality. Look at the Connecticut Senate primary race between Ned Lamont and Joe Lieberman as an example. Examine these DU posts both building up to the August 8th vote and chronicling its aftermath for a snapshot of the up and down rollercoaster which is the moonbat psyche. Enjoy!
oc2002 (953 posts) Mon Jul-24-06 09:29 AM
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A Victory for Lamont is a Victory for the Democratic Underground.
I say that this forum and others have made a local CT campaign into a kind of national referendum of the restructuring of the Democratic Party back to its roots. The election in CT is a kind of test for the new internet democracy, where people who are looking to share their views with others get support, discussion and review of their ideas. This is a kind of grass roots movement of the electronic sort of modern communications. In a way that the town hall meeting and local organizations can use this resource to bring the Democratic Party back as the party of the working man and family, with greater influence coming back into the party from the voters, instead of the corporate sponsors (DLC), who only care about what we think just before the November elections, and then quickly forget about us.
Those Democrats, like Leiberman, who have lost touch with the voters and posters here, still wonder who we are, how has the playing field changed. They see us as the threat to thier kingdom.
No, more. We are a force to be reckoned with, and we will not go away.
wtmusic (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-24-06 09:31 AM
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1. Feel the Ned-mentum!
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dsc (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-29-06 09:43 PM
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Can we now say that Lamont supporters aren't leftist kooks?
The NYT just endorsed the man. For many of the reasons Lamont's supporters have given. Are they leftist kooks?
The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-29-06 09:44 PM
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1. It Does Not Get Much More Main-Stream Than That, Sir
"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
Joe Bacon (371 posts) Sat Jul-29-06 09:47 PM
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3. My, My My what will Mickey Kaus and the liars at the New Republican say?
Why, they're just as out of touch with the American people as LIEberman is!
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Bluzmann57 (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 10:14 PM
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A question if Lieberman wins next Tuesday
If he does win the primary against the darling of DU, Ned Lamont, will DUers be claiming that the vote was fixed in some way? I am nowhere near Connecticut so I only know what I read here and hear on progressive talk radio and it sounds like Lamont is pulling ahead in some polls, but not by any overwhelming margin. Since there is hatred of Lieberman in here, and since some people think everything is a conspiracy if it goes against Dems and/or faves, I just have to ask. Personally, if I lived out there, I'd vote for Lamont as Lieberman is an obvious DINO. But if Lieberman does indeed get more votes than Lamont, let's please let the whole thing drop and move on with our support of Dems. After all, most of us don't live in Connecticut and can't really gauge the voters out there. But if Lamont wins the primary and Lieberman goes "independent", then he (Lieberman) should be defeated at all costs. One thing is an almost sure bet though, if Lamont ultimately wins the Senatorial seat and does something "conservative", some DUers will be all over him.
Unblock (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 10:15 PM
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1. no, but we'll probably say lamont is a loser and never vote for him again
it's what we democrats do....
jobycom (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 10:20 PM
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We usually do both
Kerry and Gore were robbed, and yet both of them ran the worst elections in history.
AX10 (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 10:18 PM
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2. I live in CT. Our voting process has integrity. Voter Fraud is...
not very likely to occur here. Our SOS is a Democrat and she takes the issue of "vote integrity" very seriously.
Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 10:18 PM
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3. The Establishment likes Lieberman
I'm guessing that another "statistical impossibility" will be discovered if Joe wins.
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Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 11:15 AM
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Okay, it appears Joe is going down. Who might/should be next?
I don't think there's a chance in this cycle to repeat what is happening to Holy Joe with any other candidate. For the most part, the field is set for the November elections and there's no serious chance to get anything started now.
But what's happened to Holy has implications for the future.
Who might we - or should we - target in 08? Or should we just be happy with what we have for now and wait a year to assess the impact this has had on the other elected Dems? There might be, in your mind or mine, some who just need to start saying and doing the right thing and there might be others who, like Holy, just need to go.
Discuss.
TOJ (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 11:19 AM
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2. I am hoping some of the *-loving Dems in Congress will see this and make some adjustments. Maria cantwell and Diane Finestein pop to mind immediately.
Skittles (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-05-06 10:59 PM
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129. thank you
that is what I am hoping for - Lieberman is not the only spineless ass-kissing Dem but he is the highest-profile one
0007 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-06-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #3
143. The halfwit and nitwit from Nebraska and Florida have got to go!
Furman (113 posts) Fri Aug-04-06 11:22 AM
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6. Any Democratic leader who still supports Joe after he loses the primary ..
as long as there is a better Democratic candidate to put up.
skeeters2525 (125 posts) Fri Aug-04-06 04:09 PM
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51. String Up All Lieberman Supporters
Brilliant. Democrats must defeat anyone that likes Lieberman.
We are truly the Idiot Party.
So if Durbin and Obama say they like Lieberman I should work to defeat them.
Even though I consider them the two best Senators here in my lifetime. Two guys that actually listen to us when we show up at their office. And in Obama's case, even change his votes on certifying Bush and voting for Alito.
Sure makes perfect sense.
Let's get a 99 to 1 Repbulican advantage in the Senate.
Wooo Hoooo
Obama is a friend of Lieberman and I really don't give a f***. Work against him, but please, let's put a bet up on the winner. I'll take Obama over whatever moron you find stupid enough to run against him.
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 11:27 AM
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15. what does this say about where the Big Dog is at?
i truly wish this didn't have to be about "who else needs to go" and rather could be more positive ...
what will it take to awaken the Clinton wing to the fact that we need our party to be more inclusive of the "Lamont wing"??
instead of a witch hunt, we should be pushing for reform ... perhaps chopping some heads will be necessary but it seems to me that better communication might be the way to go ... united we stand; divided we fall ... we need to try to find a way to be united ... because if we're not united, our delta will kill us ... i apologize for this momentary lapse to everyone who just read that and to anyone who does not ...
skeeters2525 (125 posts) Fri Aug-04-06 03:06 PM
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43. How About Defeating A Republican
Is that too much to ask?
Wish I could see the same activity towards that goal.
But no, we only want to defeat Dems.
Here's a thought. Screw this election.
Let's work to defeat Gore and Kerry like we did in the last two Presidential races.
Dems can only fight against their own.
And yes, I am glad Lieberman will lose, blah, blah, blah
Everything will beautiful if we just defeat all Dems.
LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 04:56 PM
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56. Oh boy. Yes let's seek out another Democrat to oust
That's what we're about. Surely we must be, as I can't get arrested in my own thread regarding what folks here can do to actually get Dems elected.
Nah, we'd rather talk about Dubya and horses and what Hillary's wearing.
Silly me. I guess I should go and tell Gov. Dean that no one gives a flying fuck about his plans, and he should just go piss off. Oh well, it was a nice idea.
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Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 05:11 PM
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57. What the f*** are you talking about?
This was an invitation to **discuss** something. You seem to have taken it as some sort of posit. It wasn't and it isn't.
But overall, your post added exactly nothing to the discussion.
LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 05:19 PM
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59. I posted two different threads about the 50 state plan
what people are doing and what they can do. I got ONE response. One lousy stinkin' response. As it sinks slowly down the board, I see threads about Dubya and horses, what Hillary is wearing. Important things I'm sure.
So when I saw your thread asking, now that we've gotten Holy Joe out of the way, who should be next, as if we were in the business of campaigning against Dems and were eager to find the next DINO to torpedo, it hit a nerve.
Can we campaign FOR someone for a while instead of AGAINST? Can we strenghten the party for a while instead of finding ways to divide it? I think that's a valid question. Sorry if you don't find value in it.
TheVirginian (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-06-06 11:08 AM
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141. Let the purging begin!!!
This is great. After we get past the fact that these people were elected because they're strong representatives that, most often, have views that closely relate the people they represent, we can force them from office, nominate a weaker candidate, and sit back and watch our potential for the majority crumble!
So, let's get rid of Ben Nelson. Nebraska needs a second Republican Senator anyways. And let's get rid of Bill Nelson. Florida deserves two GOPers.
Mary Landrieu has to go. That way, the first two Republicans elected from Louisiana can be elected in consecutive years.
Max Baucus needs the axe, so we can offset our win with Jon Tester.
Any Democrat that's been elected in a red state needs the old heave-ho, because in order to get elected, they have to compromise on some positions, and this is unacceptable. So let's nominate somebody diametrically opposed to the voting population, to show our strength as a party.
I know John Kerry is popular around here, but he's DLC. Let's ask Mitt Romney if he wants Kerry's seat, since we're kicking Kerry out of office.
The two Senators from North Dakota are somewhat conservative. We should transplant two regular liberals from New York and put them in North Dakota, then see who North Dakotans vote for.
I really like this idea. If we keep it up, then we can ensure that all 20 Democrats in the Senate are hardcore Democrats that will fight for the principles that we believe in!
Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-06-06 02:30 PM
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150. The Democratic Party needs to stick a finger down its throat and purge all the poisonous traitors and DLCers from its gut. No better place to start than in Connecticut, with a hearty upchuck of Joe Lieberman.
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Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 12:19 AM
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Ned Lamont is NOT a 'darling of the netroots' .....
He can now be officially called a mainstream candidate. His remarkable lead in the primaries is the underlying truth to that statement (54 to 41, sez Quinnipiac).
Our job, Mr. and Ms. DU, is to kill that 'darling of the netroots' meme right here and now. That meme is being relentlessly pushed in the Three Monkey Media and will be a big deal come October and November.
The words are being VERY carefully crafted into a synonym for the ever derisive 'librul'. Yell all you want about it, but them's the facts. Its code. Its dismissive. It marginalizes not only Lamont, but the 'internet community' ... which in fact is REAL F***ING PEOPLE who are working hard to counter the very media that is working to kill us as an entity and a constituency.
We are NOT 'the netroots'. We're real people.
And we're pissed.
Ned Lamont is Mainstream,p>
People who use the internet as an organizational tool are REAL PEOPLE.
...... pass it on .....
::::climbing off seltzer water box:::::
Cmkramer (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 12:05 PM
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24. just keep telling yourself that
it's still a lie.
The net was his Goebbels and their followers were his stormtroopers.
He's a candidate for the fringe nutters.
LynzM (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Yeah, obviously 40% of CT citizens polled are fringe nutters.
Or something. I've seen many posts from you today in this vein. What do you have so personally against Lamont, and his ability to build up a strong showing of support and volunteer base, who believe in his message?
MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 05:55 PM
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50. LOL! And if you clap your hands, Tinker Belle will live!
"His remarkable lead in the primaries is the underlying truth to that statement "
His remarkable lead is the result of the far left adopting swift boat tactics.
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Husb2Sparkly Response to Reply #50
51. Bitter pill for you to swallow?
Go post a black face cartoon or something.
You'll feel better.
And as in the other thread ... you can have the last word ..... its a good substitute for whatever you're lacking.
MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 06:20 PM
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52. No, a source of endless amusement
"Go post a black face cartoon "
I leave that to the "progressive" nutroots...who of course, are no more liberal than they are mint-flavored....
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Wisteria (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 11:31 AM
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A Lieberman win means ......
Our party ultimately looses in the long term. It looses its chance to take a new direction and present a new clarity on policies and ideals.
Lieberman winning means our party continues to muddle every message we try to relay and we remain the party of nothing new.
If Lieberman wins, the Democrats continue to be the second place party, afraid to stand for something and have the courage to stick to our convictions.
And, for the Republicans a Lieberman win means they can continue to claim we have no plans and no real direction and they can use Lieberman as an example of our divisions to drive home their claims that we are indecisive and weak on safety and defense issues.
And sadly, the people lose because their voice will be lost as the Clinton's the DLC and Corporate America tighten their grip on control over our party and the once grand "Party of the People" becomes the Party that ignores the people.
I don't dislike Lieberman, he seems to be a real nice honest guy, but he is a symptom of what ails our party. He is really a victim in the struggle to reclaim the Democrat party for the people and for the sake of our party, I don't want to see him win.
Endarkenment (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 11:33 AM
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1. Oh I dislike him.
I disliked him when he ran with Gore. I voted for Gore despite Joementum, and despite the sort of smarmy nannystate democrat that Joementum (and Gore at times( represented. I continue to dislike him and we need to get rid of the smarmy moralizers along with the warhawks.
Kurth (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 11:35 AM
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3. If Democrats want to restore and maintain their identity, they need to purge "collaborators and traitors" among their midst. Sorry to use a nasty sounding cliche, but it is a necessary task.
Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 12:37 PM
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10. I dislike his disingenuous, colluding, DINO A** for both of us....
He needs to go down, and go down, bigtime!
If he wins, I am going to take it as a sign, and not wait to see who our 2008 nominee is, before I ive up on this Party and go away forever. I used to think people like George Carlin and Richard Belzer, who claim they never bother to vote because the system is so rigged, it's an exercize in futility to cast a vote were NUTS. I did. I grew up thinking and believing my vote counted, and was my civic duty as a good citizen. I worked hard for my Party every election, and never missed voting once... not even for the smallest city-wides. If Joe wins tomorrow, the system IS rigged. And, it is rigged against those on the side of the angels, my friends, and that is a system I will no longer participate in.
So, voters of CT: Godspeed to you. Restore my faith!
LSK (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 12:45 PM
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12. a win for Joementum means the grassroots has no power
It will symbolize that once more, we no longer control our country and democracy continues to die in America.
Antifaschits (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 12:52 PM
14. THAT IS the answer.
Between Dieboldica machinations, out and out fraud, and other crimes we haven't figured out yet.
TrueFunkSoldier (126 posts) Mon Aug-07-06 01:01 PM
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20. Last minute tactics
It ain't over yet, people. Lamont neither has the experience nor the deceitful nature that Zell LIEberman's corporate cronies do. AND...he seems to have the Repugs on his side. They are campaigning left and right. And now that the polling gap has narrowed with no movement upwards for Lamont, I'm afraid that there is a chance that LIEberman will squeak by with a win unless something drastic happens. The media has been cheerleading for LIEberman all weekend. That may have helped him to narrow Lamont's lead. Also, I have a feeling that LIEberman and the Repugs that support him are up to something really dirty. They are going to pull last-minute tricks against Lamont supporters. I don't know what yet, but LIEberman doesn't appear to be too nervous at this point. I wonder why...
I'm glued to this race. If Lamont loses, I will be devastated, particularly for the Democratic party. The DLC'ers want him to win. I was also shocked and quite disappointed that Del Eleanor Holmes Norton stomped for LIEberman yesterday. I'm just so disheartened about what I'm seeing happen to this country.
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 03:56 PM
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45. A Lieberman win means election fraud, plain and simple.
MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 05:47 PM
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67. A Lieberman win means they STOLE it again
I have been hearing rumors that Jim Baker is very concerned about the possibility of a huge democratic win in November. Think how damaging that would be for them. I hope that the people of Connecticut demand a recount if Lieberman wins.
MrBenchley Response to Original message
71. What a pantload....
"And sadly, the people lose"
Yes, what fools the people will be, not letting the far left do all their thinking for them.
Mainly, a Lieberman win means that months of character assassination by the far left will have been wasted.
Boolean (151 posts) Mon Aug-07-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #71
84. Why does being anti-war = "The far left" to you?
Lieberman is a part of the far right.
Wiley (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 04:24 AM
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95. A Lieberman win would be similar to the Taliban win
in Afghanistan. Old ideas.None working. Lots of people getting maimed and killed. Same old oppression. I heard a really nasty Lieberman ad in a supermarket in NYC today. He has to lose. The US commanders and soldiers in Iraq must be tweaking on Provigil or something.
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global1 (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:24 PM
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Is The Stage Being Set To Steal The Leiberman/Lamont Election?.....
I've heard a number of times today already that Lieberman is closing the gap on Lamont. I'm wondering if the MSM is setting us up to say tomorrow that the race is too close to call - so that when the election is stolen and Lieberman wins - they can say his last minute efforts over the past few days must have resonated with the voters and gave him the win.
Remember - they need a close election to minimize attention being drawn to the outcome when they steal it.
Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:26 PM
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1. Absolutely....
I think that's EXACTLY what's happening. But, it's only a guess on my part. And, I would put it past Joe to steal an election. Demobrat (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:27 PM
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2. This is what worries me.
The set-up is already starting. Next thing we know we'll be hearing all kinds of wonderment over how the exit polls could be SO wrong .....
SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:36 PM
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16. Well I have to say...
That seems to be the dominant reaction here at DU whenever a preferred candidate loses...
Never that they were out-organized, or that their candidate simply was not the preferred one...
Always some external force...
Do you realize the coordination and planning that would need to happen to steal this election...?
Would require the cooperation of election officials at the local level, at the state level, and down to the technicians who would somehow have to rig the machines.
Really, it's just another hedge among some here not to have to look honestly at why the election was lost.
I have no idea who will win. A week ago I would have said Lamont by 7-10. Right now I think it will be a toss up with a slight advantage to Lieberman.
If I were a Connecticut resident I would vote for Lamont because of Lieberman's promise to go Indie if he loses...but if Lieberman does win, I will support him!
Halobeam (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:44 PM
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28. I really can't believe you are saying this.
You are saying too many people would have to be involved, so our elections are valid? Oh My God. Sometimes, I just shake my head in disbelief. Did you read Kennedy's article in Rolling Stone? Are you not well read on the issues of the vulnerabilities of OUR VOTE? YOUR vote? Please read more before you say EXACTLY what the Republicans are saying. They look foolish saying it, and actually so do you.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to sound angry... I'm giving you a friendly shaking by the shoulders, sayin' Wake up man, do you HEAR what you just said?.....
Leesa (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:30 PM
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9. I think so. If anything his behavior over the last couple of weeks would
have turned voters away not towards him. I think the media is scamming it and then the GOP will do their traditional thieving. I am quite sure that many of them made that May deadline and many ballots will 'get lost' or 'appear' as needed.
CrownPrinceBandar (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:33 PM
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11. When I heard that Jomentum had rebounded.......
in such a drastic fashion, my spidey sense went off. Something doesn't smell right here.
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 04:43 PM
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27. yes, just like Santorum is "closing" on on Casey in PA
But the GOP hardly needs a close margin to steal an election as was demonstrated in 2002 in many Senate races where there were mysterious and magical (aarrggh) double-digit overnight swings in the polls.
Mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 05:25 PM
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42. Good gawd, the excuses are starting to roll in already.
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ELECTION DAY
Ninga (950 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:16 AM Ok....here we go.....ready...set....pray!!!
I suggest that all of at DU start a chain of energy and positive force for Ned Lamont.
I invite someone to hold my hand, so that we can start to meditate and concentrate on the blast of goodwill that will send Ned over the top.
We need to create this energy as though someones life depended on us to do it...................because it does!!!
Every DU'er on the entire planet is welcome to join.
Who will hold my hand to start????????
No hand holding responses were received….
Furman (113 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:44 AM
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I just voted for Ned Lamont!
Go Ned!
Meegbear (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:53 AM
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4. A blow against the empire!
Joeprogressive (701 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:11 AM
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29. About what time will we know the outcome?
LynzM (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 11:50 AM
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40. Probably around midnight....
Polls close at 8, small towns report in, bigger towns start reporting in around 10...
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Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 02:17 PM
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Poll question: Who Do **YOU** Think Hacked Joe's Website? This whole website hack issue is bad news. NOBODY wins because of it.
Some say a Lamont suporter did it. Some say it was a puposeful inside job. (So far) no one is accusing the official Lamont organization of doing it ..... so far .....
Using your critical thinking skills and not voting from your heart, who do you think is responsible?
Poll result
A hacker (who likes Ned) ( 11%)
A hacker (who likes Joe) ( 2%)
Ned's campaign ( 0%)
Joe's campaign ( 62%)
Some kid in Dubuque or Fargo who's laughing his ass off ( 13%)
It was purely an accident .... damned Microsoft Windows ( 2%)
Other ( 9%)
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 02:24 PM
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Report from the Lamont Blogger War Room in CT
2:21pm local time from Kirby from FDL Hello all from the Blogger War Room at Lamont Hotel HQ. The HQ office is across the street, and here in the hotel, we are across the hall from the press room and down the hall from the ballroom where the hotel says the “reception” will be this evening .
Spirits are high and staffers and volunteers are unfailingly polite and not at all decompensating despite the stress and the accusations flying in from the other side.
Jane’s here, along with CTKeith, a reporter from HuffPo, BBC, and laughter abounds.
Maura just called in and reports that in the home precinct of Dan Malloy, one of the gubernatorial candidates, in Stamford, turnout at 1:45p is 31%, and at the Rogers School in Stamford, where turnout is traditionally very low, it was at 18% and poll workers were delighted. Here in my home district in Meriden, 111 of 419 had voted as of 1:15pm, or 26%, which was amazing – they had already run out of “I voted today” stickers.
Link: www.ctbob.blogspot.com
David Dunham (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 02:27 PM
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1. Okay, fess up, who hacked Joe's website?
It appears that Ned Lamont is finally calling off his DOS dogs. A day late and rather short on contrition, in my opinion.
After last week’s stunt with his attack hound Jane Hamsher and the blackface picture she pulled at his request, it’s amazing that he would think he could escape responsibility for this one. Worse yet his campaign’s official line that his faithful pitbull bloggers reliably echoed was that the Lieberman campaign wasn’t paying the bills.
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 04:20 PM
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JOE LIEBERMAN IS A VILE SCUMBAG,/b>
Ok, I've made no bones about my feelings for Lieberman over the last couple of years, but this vicious last-minute smear of Lamont really rankles me. Lieberman's website went down because he only pays $15 for a server he shares w/ 71 other websites. They are ALL down because of traffic.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/8/153827/3493
This smear is nothing more than a desperate, unhinged act of a vicious, vile despicable piece of s***. Lieberman could not go out gracefully. Instead, he has to launch this vile smear on Ned in order to give him an excuse to either contest the results or run indy, or to take down Lamont w/ him. He wants to take the party down w/ him.
Will Joe apologize for the vicious and admittedly baseless attack on Lamont?(Yes, his campaign ADMITS they have no evidence it was Lamont, or even that it was a hack). Or will Joe lose and go out as the classless piece of s*** he is, letting these allegations stand? We were right about Joe all along. He's a despicable piece of shit.
If only he fought as hard in 2000. If only he debated Cheney as viciously as he debated Lamont. Why is it that Joe views Dems as more of an enemy to him than the Repubs that are ruining this country? Why does he not go after Bushco. w/ the same zeal that he goes after people in his own party? Why is he such a f***ing douchebag?
Joe Lieberman, ultimate scumbag. That will be his political epitaph and rightfully so.
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Nimrod2005
(1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 04:36 PM
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Poll question: Your CT election prediction here please
What will the margin be?
Poll result
Lamont by less than 5 points (16%)
Lamont by 6-9 points ( 26%)
Lamont by 10-14 points ( 39%)
Lamont by 15-20 points ( 0%)
Joe by lesss than 5 points ( 6%)
Joe by 6-9 points ( 0%)
Joe's head explodes tonight ( 6%)
Joe resigns from the senate before 8:00 PM ( 0%)
Hannity attacks Lamont on the H&C show ( 6%)
George Bush orders the Internets (and bloggers) blown up ( 0%)
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Originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 05:32 PM
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There are two Democratic Parties, Begun the Democratic Civil War has...
Anyone else watching this on MSNBC? OMG! Howard Fineman had it right when he said it, this whole segment looked like Democrats vs. Republicans, not Democrats vs. Democrats.
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:59 PM
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It Just Keeps Getting Better and Better
As of 8:58 PM
U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary
106 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 14.17%
Name Party Votes Pct
Lamont, Ned 25,969 57.79%
Lieberman, Joe 18,968 42.21%
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Trumad (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:46 PM
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I would have said good luck Joe if he lost--now I'll say fuck off.....
and good riddance A-Hole. I will never forgive him fro using Rovian tactics during this campaign. ever....
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Cynatnite (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:39 PM
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Remember how great 2004 looked early on?
I was flying high that entire day and had no doubt we would win...
After such a crushing defeat that left me depressed for weeks, I decided I was never going to get my hopes so high. The fall hurt like hell.
So tonight, I prefer very cautious optimism.
Longship (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:41 PM
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2. 2004 turned out bad because of Diebold and Blackwell in OH.
And because of hackable machines in FL.
CT votes on old, unhackable technology.
Cynatnite (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:45 PM
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6. I'm not talking about how Kerry lost...
We were all riding high for quite a while and the loss, no matter the reasons for it, was still crushing. Better to be cautious than too optimistic.
Yourout (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:42 PM
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3. One difference........Diebold does not have a strangle hold on Conn.
cali (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:43 PM
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4. I'm not even cautiously optimistic.
I'm downright pessimistic. That way if i'm right, my disappointment will be ameliorated, and if i'm wrong, i'll be overjoyed.
P
TAPat (632 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:44 PM
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5. I remember all too well...
We spent $ we didn't have to go out and have a hamburger to celebrate.
But I'm enjoying the high right now though - Don't think I'll spend $20 I don't have until the results are in.
GO NED!
In_Transit (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:46 PM
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7. Ditto! It was a bad time. Maybe this time will be better.
Even a lot of repugs are pissed.
stillcool47 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:47 PM
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8. I tried to stay away....
....but just knowing that Diebold, and the Republican party don't have a strangle-hold on the election process in Connecticut is enough to make me very hopeful.
Malaise (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:51 PM
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9. I was hear November 2004
and still remember the days of hurt. Still a Lamont victory tonight would be a major event. Special interests will understand the power of the blogs and the anger among voters. Go Lamont.
Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:51 PM
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10. Kerry didn't poll 51% at any point during the election cycle
And the race was simply too close to call. Our optimism was based entirely on exit polls. I'd still be cautious, but I think that this is much more likely to happen than 2004.
Leftchick (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 08:54 PM
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11. I got drunk on champaigne, went to bed certain of a "real deal"
woke up with the WORST hangover of my life. EVER! Bar none.
And my favorite:
Habibi (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:02 PM
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13. O yes
I was just thinking about that, and saw this thread. I'm not pessimistic but I'm trying to keep my enthusiasm and certainty in check--can't go through crying on the bathroom floor again, like I did in 2004!
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Madokie (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:27 PM
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I sure hope we're not jumping the gun here
I have been let down so many times of late that I am going to wait a while to see if this is as it really is, Lamont vs lieberman. as I sit here with my fingers crossed.
Atman (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:29 PM
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4. We are.
Have hope, cross your fingers, pray, sing, whatever. Don't lose hope.
But we should have learned by now that when criminals run the system, the system becomes criminal. Anything can happen by tomorrow morning.
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:29 PM
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5. Please note:
Even if Lamont loses tonight, Democratic Party politics have been changed forever by this . Do not doubt that for a moment.
Of course, there will be a lot of statements denying that. Pay them no heed.
Lautremont (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:30 PM
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6. My feeling is
that the right wing of your country craft elections the way dramatists write plays: they allow for some drama and suspense at first, playing with the people who have an emotional stake in the proceedings, but, wouldn't you know it, the surprise ending always favours the right.
I am emitting not one "woo-hoo" until every vote is cast and certified.
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Rainy (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:24 PM
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Do not go to sleep tonight. We don't want to wake up to a
miraculous change in vote counts in CT.
Borgnine (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:25 PM
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1. That's the way I'm feeling.
I know it's silly, but I'm afraid if I sleep then Lieberman will put ahead.
Also, clowns will eat me.
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:45 PM
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Ned 52.17% some improvement
U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary
423 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 56.55%
Name Party Votes Pct
Lamont, Ned Dem 79,580 52.17
Lieberman, Joe (i) Dem 72,964 47.83
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:50 PM Original message Ned 51.60% ...64.7% counted
U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary 484 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 64.71% Name Party Votes Pct Lamont, Ned Dem 89,814 51.60 Lieberman, Joe (i) Dem 84,231 48.40 mom cat (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:50 PM
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Ned 51.60% ...64.7% counted U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary
484 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 64.71%
Name Party Votes Pct
Lamont, Ned Dem 89,814 51.60
Lieberman, Joe (i) Dem 84,231 48.40
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Sam Odom (274 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:35 PM
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F*** !! Joe is moving up
52%
Ned 52%
Joe 48
Sam Odom(274 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:41 PM
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2. Joe is doing MUCH better in bigger cities
Janice325 (652 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:45 PM
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6. Jeez.
I can see myself staying up until it's over, refreshing that site every few seconds. (I'm pathetically compulsive and too revved up tonight for a Lamont blowout-I hope!!).
,b>Jpkenny (129 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:44 PM
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5. Is there any up-side for us if Lieberman pulls this out?
I need a ray of hope for something.
Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 09:51 PM
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7. No.
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Onlooker< (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:19 PM
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What are we doing wrong?
Lamont, if he wins, is going to win by a small margin. Is this the seachange we're all looking for? Or is this the result of a Democratic Party that has turned Republican? Are we really so weak that we can't even convincingly defeat a DINO in a primary in a fairly liberal state? If this race is a sign of things to come, there's no way the Democrats will make headway come November. This race is very disappointing.
Teaser (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:20 PM
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1. oh please
do you have any idea how hard it is to unseat an incumbent? any idea at all?
Don't bring that whiny s*** here.
tridim (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:27 PM
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29. This is the first major victory for our side in about 10 years. and you're disappointed?
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RGBolen (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:32 PM
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If Lieberman ends up with around 48% he easily wins in a 3 way race for the general election.
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:33 PM
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worrying? results seem to be slowing now....hard to trust that something funny won't happen....
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MrCoffee,/b> (371 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:38 PM
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86.63% Reporting
U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary
648 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 86.63%
Name Party Votes Pct
Lamont, Ned Dem 124,528 51.82
Lieberman, Joe (i) Dem 115,803 48.18
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:44 PM
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Stuck at 84% reported, waiting for Hartford: I hope theyre' not screwing.. around in CT.
Everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:45 PM
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2. Who knows...
perhaps someone is burning ballots....
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:47 PM
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Hey, I just got home & cranked up DU.
Anything happening tonight?
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:52 PM
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The Official Screaming Freakout Thread
BLARG!
BLAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!
CALL THE RACE!!! CALL IT!!! NOW!!! QUIT, YOU GODDAM HALF-ASSED APPEASER!!! YOU WASTE OF SKIN!!! YOU ABUSER OF PLATYPII!!!
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:53 PM
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It's over, Lamont wins, STOP THE WAR
U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary
702 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 93.85%
Name Party Votes Pct
Lamont, Ned Dem 134,942 51.65
Lieberman, Joe Dem 126,330 48.35
Monkeyman (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:54 PM
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1. Bang Rove just shot the VP lol
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Atman (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 10:58 PM
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How odd...EXIT POLLS in CT, with no Diebold, match official results so far
Just reported on the local station here, results of exit polling conducted by Quinnepaic and CBS.
Very, very interesting, eh?
Mass (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 11:00 PM
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4. There were no exit polls.
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NormaR (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 11:05 PM
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Lieberman says "Team Connecticut" will win in '2nd half" – ASSHOLE
AzDar (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 11:07 PM
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12. He is LOATHESOME...the people have spoken :GET OUT,muthaf***er!!
Neecy (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 11:08 PM
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13. lying sick bastard!!
I'm watching this and wanting to puke my guts out!!!!
Note to self: donate to Ned first thing in the morning.
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Jpkenny (137 posts) Tue Aug-08-06 11:04 PM
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Is anyone worried yet about the missing 11 Egyptian students?
Not much is being mentioned about them in the news.
But I think there are many here (including me) who really are just aching to throw moderate Republicans and all RINOs straight out of office.
For a long time, pols could come off as patient and somehow "seasoned" with casting themselves as being in the middle, and now that's not so.
Was it Margaret Thatcher who first said it? "The only thing in the middle of the road is ROAD-KILL".
Never truer than now, and for us too, I think.
I feel the tremors building, even now.
Moonbats triumphant that they are purging the last few voices of sanity from the democrat party.
Mushy on Immigration RINOs BE WARNED.
buyers remorse
---The NYT just endorsed the man. For many of the reasons Lamont's supporters have given. Are they leftist kooks?---
:^)
LOL! I like it!
Lieberman is calling himself an 'independent Democrat' now. The left is absolutely furious about it. One lunatic suggested that Howard Dean sue this man, as if some copyright rule has been infringed....lol.
BUSH WINS--BUSH WINS--BUSH WINS
When the Lamont (read kook) message hits Mr and Mrs America, the Rat party is toast. We saw this movie before.
Insightful and entertaining intro.
Yeah, let's hope Lamont pulls a Dean and scares the hell out of any moderately intelligent CT citizen. HAHAHA!!!
I cant imagine the democrat party going much farther left without a split.
Maybe this is it. A JFK democrat could do well I think starting a new party.
Naw, what's the worst that could happen? I mean after all the last time we had a bunch of extremists running around Abe Lincoln got elected.
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