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To: catholicfreeper
As I said, the companies that provide direct mail fundraising sometimes provide other services as well. Apparently, Response Unlimited provided a web-based donation service to MCDC as well as other organizations and candidates. I don't know what you think you uncovered or what you think is wrong about what you found.

They listed their web-based donation service clients just like they listed their direct mail clients as I posted earlier. The Direct Mail services seem to operate under Response Unlimited and the web-based donation services apparently operate under Response Enterprises. What "connection" do you think you've made in your desperate attempt to find anything with which to smear Chris Simcox and the MCDC.

You know, if you "dig", you may "uncover" the fact that Free Republic is "connected" to the Free Republic Network and to Robinson-DeFehr Consulting, LLC and it all leads to a shadowy figure who calls himself "Jim Robinson". What a conspiracy!!! < /sarcasm >

Here's a little sage advice for you:

It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -- Mark Twain

249 posted on 07/17/2006 4:03:18 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

You know there is nothing "illegal" about this as to how this is set up. But one could and should ask if this is all a bit unproper. You see also this is quite different than Free Republic. Free Republic the last time I look isnt basically trying to pass itself off as a charity like organization that is building a 55 million dollar fence. Is any of this illegal the way it is set up. No probaly not at least not yet from the minor digging that has been done But it is pretty improper though. If some Pr firm(Driener- ) perhaps wants to justify that a significant portion of every dollar donated isgoing to organizations that are all interelated and owned by the same folks that are connected with oversight of this fence and project then more power to them. I jus t suspect a good percentage would object because this very scenario raises the even more questions. Bad move IMHO

But please lets stop the charade and quit thinking that no one knows anybody or the non profit 503 organization is not spinning off a lot of dough to their friends. Too some it won't matter . To others it will.

IS this a fraud? Is therea personsor persons that are quite aware that no fence will be built and this is just to continue the $ for Keyes and friends. Whom well common sense tells me something is happening. But again that may or may not be happening. I have seen enough to raise a ton of red flags. That is why groups that do this sort of thing are not set up this way.


251 posted on 07/17/2006 4:35:55 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: Spiff

Their compulsion is a powerful one, ain't it.

Blow off their own leg, hoist on their own petard, and yet they come limping back for more...


284 posted on 07/17/2006 7:58:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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