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To: Markjwyatt; All

To those that are interested , the guy here that is the author is a convert to Catholicism. In fact he proceeded to write threegreat books called "Not by Bread alone, 'Not by Scripture alone" and Not by Faith Alone" However, he is now aligned with certain Traditionalist in the Catholic movement and in my view has gotten kinda of quacky. However he offered a large sum of money to any one that can prove that the Earth is not at the center of Universe. In fact on his web site you can see where Mel Gibson's dad tried to take him up on the offer and at the end could not prove that the Earth is not at the center of the universe.


9 posted on 06/22/2006 12:55:45 AM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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The next thing he is going to deny is that Sir Issac Newton theories were wrong and Albert Einstein's theories were wrong.


10 posted on 06/22/2006 1:36:31 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: catholicfreeper

Well that's a sucker bet....In an infinite universe every point is the "center" and none is.


12 posted on 06/22/2006 1:40:05 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: catholicfreeper
...and at the end could not prove that the Earth is not at the center of the universe.

Of course not! Those for whom no proof is acceptable -- no matter how legitimate and irrefutable -- have the luxury of knowing they will never have to pay up on their offers of large sums of money.

It's actually quite easy to prove that our planet is not even the center of our own solar system, nor of our own galaxy, let alone the center of the universe. But greedy malicious individuals, such as this huckster pushing his stupid book, can convince the gullible of anything.

16 posted on 06/22/2006 1:59:18 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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To: catholicfreeper

One point is as good as another in an infinite universe...but by most normal criteria, based on things like orbits and such, we're just a little speck on an outer band of a moderate sized galaxy in a sea of other such critters.

The ptolemeic model works based on the maths, and seems elegant, but the reality it presumes isn't the reality that exists.

One can have some special philosophical reason for saying here is the center, but the normative determinants that even the ptolemaic world view had don't apply. Things don't spin around us. We spin around the sun, the sun is part of a galaxy that spins, and in turn it spins in unison with other structures.

The evidence doesn't match the heart, or even our everyday experience, perhaps. But reality is reality.


18 posted on 06/22/2006 2:10:14 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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