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HardWorkingDem (809 posts) Wed Jun-14-06 02:24 PM
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I'm Sorry, but its time for Fitzgerald to go or get off the pot....
I might feel this way because of what has happened to Rove (no indictment), but I think it is time for Fitzgerald to either put it all up the table or fold his tent and go home. I can recall asking back BEFORE the 2004 election if everyone thought this investigation would be done before the election and most said absolutely. It is now mid-way through 2006 and this thing is still not done. Frankly, it's ridiculous. There is no way this investigation should be going on three years now (Fitzgerald was appointed in December of 2003).
In the long run no one will most likely pay for any of this wrongdoing anyway. My prediction is that as the way things are going now, if there is even ANY conviction, the conviction will be overturned upon appeal or the conviction will come so late in Bush's final term that Bush will simply pardon the offender.
But like I said, this might just my own feeling because of the disappointment over Rove. I guess a Cheney indictment would be worth the wait, but really, it's time for Fitzgerald to finish this up.
coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-14-06 03:39 PM
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17. A preliminary Marxist analysis: Fitz represents a legal system that reflects (and protects) the interests of the same bourgeois powers that propelled BFEE into power. Insofar as those bourgeois powers may now be growing dis-satisfied with the BFEE's competence to maintain the interests of the empire, i.e., insofar as there is now a growing split in the power elite, is where Fitz' real powers, if any, reside.
This really, imho, isn't about one great man (Fitz) or one dastardly villain (Rove), but fundamentally a working-out of intra-class interests (the ruling class' interests). Based on what I've seen of Fitz, he probably personally thinks Rove is guiltier than sin. But what Rove and the BFEE did is ultimately a "political" crime. To understand what I mean by that, ask yourself this question: could Fitz if he so chose indict a sitting President or Vice President in l'affair Wilson-Plame? Put another way, could Fitz be dismissed by Gonzalez for pursuing an investigation after receiving a direct order from Gonzalez not to pursue it any further?
Ironically, Wilson and his wife are also products of this same bourgois-imperialist system. I don't know enough about their respective pedigrees to know whether they come from Brahmin stock or whether each is more of a self-raised technocrat. But the power elite's interests will ultimately determine what happens here, not Fitz' personal integrity or lack thereof. That's not to say we should be 'quietist' about l'affaire Wilson-Plame. But rather to say that we should also try to expose the seamy imperial agenda that itself gave rise to the BFEE's need to out Valerie Plame, much like Watergate happened because of Nixon's drive to silence and intimidate Ellsburg and others who might be tempted to emulate Ellsburg's actions.
These thoughts are tentative and I apologize to serious scholars of Marxism if I've inadvertently bastardized or vulgarized a more serious\more accurate Marxist analysis.
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No offense taken, comrade....