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Bush speech marks low point for GOP
Conservative Oupost ^ | 5/16/06 | Drew McKissick

Posted on 05/16/2006 7:07:22 PM PDT by Drew McKissick

I say the speech marks a low point because the Administration has made a conscious decsion to push full steam ahead on an issue that has the potential to turn the GOP's majority into a minority - fast.

Somebody please tell me what we elected a Republican majority for? To pass programs that make a mockery of our laws? To open our country's borders to upwards of 200 million immigrants over the next 20 years...just so we can, (as John McCain suggests), have someone to clear the tables in our restaurants and pick our vegetables.

Some day's I think that some elements of the GOP have lost their collective minds. It's one thing to do something stupid, have someone point it out, learn from it and not do it again. It's another to rush headlong into something so monstrously stupid that everyone with half a brain is pointing it out to you and you stubbornly continue to do it. In this case, putting the Republican majority at serious risk. OK, that was being charitable. We're probably already at serious risk, at least in terms of one of the two houses of Congress, but this thing threatens to split the party down the middle.

And of all the issues for the President to "make a stand on", why oh why does it have to be this? Geez, how about the budget, runaway spending or something. Maybe vetoing a bill now and then. That terrible piece of "reform" known as Campaign Finance Reform comes to mind. But no, it has to be this.

And as we go through this debate, might I just say that there are several phrases that should be banned completely, as I am utterly sick of hearing them. Such as "comprehensive reform"...as in, we can just fix one problem, we have to leverage "your" desire to do border security to get "our" amnesty plan. And how about "out of the shadows"? With all the rallies lately, I don't think anyone's in the shadows anymore. And heck, it's not like the government doesn't know what "shadows" their hiding in...they've just made a conscious decision not to enforce the law. Just like they made a conscious one to showboat by busting some illegals a few weeks ago. And I am sick and tired of supposedly intelligent people suggesting that our economy is going to crumble if we don't import tens of millions of poorly educated, unskilled laborers. Please. Let's call a spade a spade. That's the business community talking. It's almost enough to turn social conservatives against business.

And what's with this straw-man the proponents of "comprehensive reform" keep promoting when they say their plan is necessary because, "we can't possibly deport 12 million people". I'll say it once again for the hearing impaired. WE DON'T HAVE TO! Just enforce the border and fine the heck out of any business that hires them. They can either sit hear and a) go hungry, b) try and fraudulently collect welfare...at which time they should be shipped back home, or c) eventually go home.

And since when where the proponents of this program so all fired up about the fact that we have illegal aliens in this country. You'd think they just woke up and discovered it. Now they claim that any proposal must address their status and "get them out of the shadows". Please. They're just trying to ride on the coattails of the momentum created by conservatives over lax border enforcement.

I for one and thoroughly and completely sick. Will the real conservatives please stand up? Thank the good Lord we managed to get a few good judges and Justices on the Supreme Court out of the sweat everyone put into the last few campaigns. It doesn't look like real conservatives will get much else.


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To: sinkspur
Here's a "Ninas Limpias".

That's Spanish for "baby wipes."

el bebé enjuga

21 posted on 05/16/2006 8:01:10 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: digger48

What issue is more important than the security of the nation?

Can someone, anyone give me one actual reason why illegal aliens should be given a path to citizenship? Anyone? Please note that "because they're here already" is not an acceptable answer.


22 posted on 05/16/2006 8:24:16 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: Gorobei

---What issue is more important than the security of the nation? ---

Keeping Republicans in the majority, according to many here.


23 posted on 05/16/2006 8:34:41 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: tomahawk

"Bush has destroyed the GOP, perhaps forever."

So, are YOU going to vote for Republicans in November, or not.

If so, then Bush probably hasn't destroyed the GOP.


24 posted on 05/16/2006 8:59:45 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (La nuit tombe.)
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To: claudiustg

I want them in the majority because they promised to do certain things when campaigning. Not for the sake of being i nthe majority.


25 posted on 05/16/2006 9:00:01 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: WriteOn
The real battle is with Islam and he's ducked that one as far as I can tell. Right now he looks like a drunken cowboy in a barfight.

Uh-oh, Don. We may have a tie for "Dumbest Post of the Day". This one completely ignores the war on terror and the freeing from tyranny of 50 million Muslims.

Yep. Today we have a tie for the honors.

We'll be in touch with a list of the fabulous prizes.

26 posted on 05/16/2006 9:12:42 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: Gorobei
Can someone, anyone give me one actual reason why illegal aliens should be given a path to citizenship? Anyone?

Because they'll be grateful, and won't bellyache like an inflamed hemorrhoid.

27 posted on 05/16/2006 9:15:21 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: Drew McKissick
It's almost enough to turn social conservatives against business.

It's not just social conservatives. It's turning off the law and order conservatives, national defense conservatives, constitutional conservatives, etc. Bush has sold out everyone in the movement who cares about more than just making a buck for himself.

It will take decades for the Republican party to recover from the Bush administration. After it's over, we need to blackball the entire Bush family, Rino sellouts all. Jeb and George P....don't even think about it.

28 posted on 05/16/2006 9:19:05 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: WriteOn
Real conservatives are crying.

I always expected the Democrats to sell us out, but never in my lifetime did I expect that it would be the GOP who sold American citizens out.

The GOP is now in the pockets of foreign interests, not ours, and we're paying the price.

When the next 20 million welfare recipients come across the border, who will pay the bills when the takers outnumber the givers? Mr. Bush didn't address that in his sellout speech.

29 posted on 05/16/2006 9:22:09 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: claudiustg
Keeping Republicans in the majority, according to many here.

"Between a rock and a hard place" describes the position of many conservatives today, I would guess. If some Republicans in office, e.g. Bush, Hagel, and Martinez are willing to bestow U.S. citizenship upon millions of immigrants and illegal aliens, we have to ask why.

If their hidden agenda is to court these people to add to their voter ranks, we will never hear them say it.

Whether or not that is the goal, it amounts to pure stupidity, IMO.

As wiser people than I have said, the end result will be a United States that we and those before us would not recognize anymore. It will be for the worse, not the better. This is the mess we will leave to our progeny.

George W. Bush was the only acceptable candidate I could vote for in the last two presidential elections. Frankly, he has disappointed me; I think he should have been wiser. Maybe he doesn't have it in him.

30 posted on 05/16/2006 9:24:50 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: sinkspur

That was rather nonsensical.

We're talking about criminals here. Law-breakers. Why reward them?


31 posted on 05/16/2006 9:27:53 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: sinkspur

Why don't we check back this November and see how well the GOP fares by opening our borders to hundreds of millions of Third Worlders?


32 posted on 05/16/2006 9:30:52 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: curiosity
It will take decades for the Republican party to recover from the Bush administration.

You are nauseatingly predictable in your hyperbole. In fact, you couldn't possibly be any more wrong.

33 posted on 05/16/2006 9:35:02 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: sinkspur
Because they'll be grateful

They should be. They won't be.

34 posted on 05/16/2006 9:38:17 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: tomahawk
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF THIRD-WORLDERS!!!!

Could you possibly be any more hysterical?

There might be hundreds of millions of termites eating your house, or hundreds of millions of roaches in your pantry, but there aren't hundreds of millions human beings doing any one thing at a time, unless it's sleeping, eating, or breathing.

35 posted on 05/16/2006 9:43:19 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: Gorobei
We're talking about criminals here. Law-breakers. Why reward them?

They're mowing your grass, cleaning up your city park, cleaning your motel room, roofing your house, pouring tar on a parking lot.

Those are workers, not criminals.

36 posted on 05/16/2006 9:45:34 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: Gorobei
...one actual reason why illegal aliens should be given a path to citizenship?

For many years, the federal government ignored their obligation to protect and defend their country by securing it's borders. You have heard the often repeated reason (excuse?), that Americans will not do some of the jobs that illegal aliens do for low wages.

Maybe we could kick the bums off the dole, where working taxpayers are forced (unwillingly) to support them.

Their choice then: starve or work in the fields and earn a fair wage. We probably will pay more for our fruits and vegetables, but we can't have it both ways.

Anyone arrested for drug trafficking or use should be given the same options, or imprisonment.

The subject of drugs in this country is another topic.

37 posted on 05/16/2006 9:48:37 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: sinkspur
They're mowing your grass, cleaning up your city park, cleaning your motel room, roofing your house, pouring tar on a parking lot.

Selling drugs on your sidewalk, stealing your car, bankrupting your emergency rooms, living in your publicly subsidized housing, redeeming your taxpayer provided food-stamps, swamping your public schools..

38 posted on 05/16/2006 9:52:26 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: sinkspur
Because they'll be grateful...

Surely you intended that as sarcasm.

39 posted on 05/16/2006 9:53:02 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: Mojave
Selling drugs on your sidewalk, stealing your car, bankrupting your emergency rooms, living in your publicly subsidized housing, redeeming your taxpayer provided food-stamps, swamping your public schools..

When you get as incensed about some blacks and white trash who do the same thing, let me know.

40 posted on 05/16/2006 9:57:05 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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