Official Catholic Church Women's Group Involved in Legal Prostitution Scheme in Germany

LifeSiteNews.com ^ | May 4, 2006 | John-Henry Westen

[Larry Lucido]

Ah, heck with it. Abuse button hit.

[Atlantic Bridge]

In Germany a woman who collects unemployment payments cannot refuse work in brothel.

This is a lie. Complete Bullshit.

Fact is, that prostitution was legalized. That means that a prostitute i.e. can enforce her payment by legal action. She has to pay taxes (most of them do not of course) and her "service" is legally not immoral anymore. The social welfare or unemployment welfare is payed no matter if a woman refuses to work in a brothel or not. I think around 2 or 3 years ago a man in east Germany tried to get some prostitutes over the "Arbeitsamt" (Federal Employment Office) for his new-opened whorehouse. They refused to "help" him (It was reported in "DER SPIEGEL" then). The authorities do not assist prostitution, but they do not prosecute it anymore.

Usually I do not use that harsh words on others but I hate Freepers who use this wonderful medium for dumb disinformation. Quite often you can hear some weird claims just to prove how "sinful" (Buhuhaha!) good old Europe is. This is the easiest way to discredit FR and its members. Therefore it would be helpful if you could inform yourself properly before you give such offending statements here.

Personally I do not like prostitution either. Anyway - no matter where you go - you will find whores and johns. The German "Prostitutionsgesetz" (prostitution law) is "technical" BS because it doesn't define a clear border between immoral and not. Fortunately the officials handle the problem quite conservative. Therefore there are for sure no woman encouraged or even forced by officials to prostitute themselves. There are rather expensive programs to get the women from the streets and whorehouses.

Greetings from Lake Constance/Germany

[VOA]

Friendly request:
Is there any merit to the proposition that this false news report resulted from
agitation by a lawyer based in Hamburg (the "Mechthild Garweg" I mention
in post 19)?

If this "news" shows one thing...it's that some of the news we get
in the USA is simply not fact-checked.
And just another reason to Google, Google, Google, then Google some
more before swallowing anything heard/read in the mainstream media.
(I'd heard the story reported on one of the major Los Angeles radio
stations as a straight news story.)

[sumocide]

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp

You evolved to believe any BS?

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Talk about the sale of indulgences...

[grey_whiskers]

In the U.S. the job has to be comparable to the job you lost. We could legalize prostitution without forcing women to be prostitutes... besides the first time a man was forced to be gay prostitute there would be a revolt.

As far as comparable, aren't people already constantly complaining about how they're constantly getting screwed at work, and that their job sucks? :-)

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

I was thinking when I first read the article, and before reading the thread, that someone had messed up the translation of John 8:11 into German:

"gekommen und Sünde mehr"

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

...although, it was Luther who struck the offending portion [John 7:53 - 8:11] out of scripture, not the Catholics. :-)

Tends to peg the punster and irony meter.

Cheers!

[Delta 21]

Fact is, that prostitution was legalized. That means that a prostitute i.e. can enforce her payment by legal action. She has to pay taxes (most of them do not of course) and her "service" is legally not immoral anymore.

Thats the text book definition of a "sugar coated turd".

[Atlantic Bridge]

Thats the text book definition of a "sugar coated turd".

So what? Your "thurd" is maybe not that sugar coated, but it lies in human nature that it also exists. Instead of prohibit prostitution it would be more helpful to get rid of all pimps and slave traders. This is the point were all of our officals (including those in your country) fail. If some women prostitute themselves at their own free will I have no problem with it, although it is hard to understand for me. People should have the possibility to do whatever they want as long as they do no harm to anybody.

[Atlantic Bridge]

If this "news" shows one thing...it's that some of the news we get in the USA is simply not fact-checked.

Understood. It is nothing new that we have the same problem in Europe. In Germany we are forced to deal with state controlled TV and Radio and their permanent lies i.e. (they tell you that they are free to say whatever they want, but this is complete BS). There are strong powers (no matter if we talk about the political left or right) that use falisfied news for their political aims. Mechthild Garweg uses it for dumb left feminism, some Americans use it to prove that old Europe is the sinful Gomorrah they are dreaming of.

As far as I know FR was founded to do something against such false news. Therefore it would be helpful if people could check some really weird informations before they publish them.

[Atlantic Bridge]

MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Cool screenname. The question is who will be King Belsazar. ;-)

[RHINO369]

I never understood why all of Europe has state controlled media. Don't you have any freedom of the press? Especially since in Germany, you must have had American influences because we were involved in recreating your government.

[Atlantic Bridge]

Not all of our media is state controlled. The problem is, that the German gouvernment of Adenauer, that was originally promoted by the US in the beginning 50ties, once established the so called "Oeffentlich rechtlicher Rundfunk" (broadcasting service under public law). This broadcasting service is financed by (high) fees that have to be paid from every owner of a TV, a radio or a computer in Germany. Theorectically they are free to report of everything, in fact they provide a political correct program that subordinates itself under the policy of each German gouvernment. MSM at its best.

In difference to the private channels they can spend really huge amounts of money (due to the fees AND advertisement - real bloodsuckers) for their magazines and news. Therefore their "quality" is better than the one of the privates. The problem is that you get only filtered news from them. So you have the choice between technically bad private TV or a technically good propaganda show of the contemporary German gouvernment. Most people do not get it since the public broadcasting works with profound means. They "forget" important things or "limit" themselves to some details without telling the whole story. Personally I usually look news from Switzerland where they have broad freedom to report whatever they want.

We should not forget that Germany was a occupied country in the 50ties and it was in the interest of Adenauer and the occupation authorities to control the public opinion. It was understandable at that time, but the current situation is a shame.

Not that long ago I got in "trouble" with the police since I kicked out a fee collector from the "GEZ - Gebuehreneinzugszentrale" from my property. He wanted to control if I have radios in my business cars and simply entered the land of my firm. After being thrown out forcefully he called the police because he whined that I have had attacked him. The funny thing was, that the policemen grinned big when I told them that this was my duty as a citizen and they teached the fee collector not to enter my land (although he has the right to do so - BuHuHaHa!) again. Nothing else happened.

Anyway Germany has to get rid of this kind of broadcasting and its fee collectors.

[CzarNicky]

In Germany a woman who collects unemployment payments cannot refuse work in brothel.

Urban legend.

[caddie]

None of this would be even remotely necessary if soccer were not so damn boring.