Posted on 04/27/2006 7:19:49 PM PDT by hipaatwo
Thanks for the ping!
Jay Rockefeller('54) went to school at Phillips Exeter with John Heinz('56) and John Negroponte('56).
Rockefeller's middle name is Davison. It comes from the Rockefeller's family friend Henry P. Davison, one of the secret members in attendance at the meeting on Jekyll Island that laid out the plan to establish the Federal Reserve System in the United States.
Phillips Exeter is a lot like Phillips Andover where they send a lot of their grads into the halls of power, specifically in the spook community.
Henry Davison was representing the banking interests of JP Morgan & Co at Jekyll Island. The Rockefeller's National City Bank(now Citibank) were represented by Frank Vanderlip. Also at the meeting was a Benjamin Strong. I don't know if he is of any relation to Maurice Strong. However, every single one of the Jekyll Island participants were enthusiastic supporters of the UN.
Wow! It is hard to put all of this together. Even being of the conspiracy-bent mind!
But why would Joe Wilson risk having people take a closer look at him and expose all of these connections? If you had all this stuff going on, wouldn't you keep a lower profile?
Why do so many of them insist on going Na-na-na-na-pooh-pooh? That's not rhetorical, I really wonder... hubris, thrill, spy-vs-spy-vs-spy???
Puzzling Pinz
A lot of things don't make sense. When the Nicholas Biddle was trying to renew the lease on the 2nd Bank of the United States he hired flacks to argue against rewewing the lease. He was trying to control the opposing arguments to his financial interest so he merely started funding their writings knowing at any point that he could withdraw those funds.
Jay Rockefeller's admission that he told Syrian President Assad that the United States was going to war with Iraq during his 2002 visit was an example of Rockefeller doing what he could to protect the interests of his supporters, ie banks.
Wars are the dirtiest business of all in today's world because there really isn't ever a clear cut winner. Wars are no longer won, they are simply fought.
I hate conspiracy theory at the root. It makes for great fiction and film, but what other reason did Rockefeller have for making an emergency visit to Syria to meet with a state sponsor of terrorism? Friendly greetings?
If even a quarter of this is true, no small wonder Rockefeller has no allegiance to the U.S.
Ever read Taylor Caldwell's book, The Captain and the Kings? To International Citizens, the best business climate is a war. It's so foreign to me, I don't tend to see that sort of scenario. But it cerainly is looking more and more that way.
Wonder if I still have a copy of that somewhere in the house...
I need to make myself plow through all of the Wilson links and threads, but just know that I'm shaking my head and stomping my feet every inch of the way. :-(
Pray for President Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Snow. They are all fighting the good fight on our behalf.
Pinz
He'd only worry about connections being exposed if someone could prove wrongdoing in a court of law, and he knows that would be difficult to do--both because much of the evidence is not easily obtained (some of it buried in the files of his wife's CIA unit where even a Senate subcommittee found difficulty getting at it, some of it in African countries controlled by the French and not subject to US jurisdiction) and because his political friends (Al Gore, Brent Scowcroft, the Saudis, etc.) have powerful legal connections--so he figures he can get away with it, as he did when Clinton was President. It may also be he's not in a position to say no to his handlers. And it's obvious he likes the negative attention he gets from sticking a thumb in George Bush's eye.
Espinoge isn't really legal at all. Almost all of the activities of espinoge are explicitly illegal. The question is politics. Does the chief law enforcement officer have the evidence or the will to pursue the investigation?
Iran-Contra was almost impossible to investigate because the banks were so deep in the game it became a US national interest NOT to see the feds close in on the banks. US Banks were looking to enter new energy rich markets such as UAE, Pakistan, etc. What's often in the interest of US enterprise is also becomes the interest of the United States. The same is true for France, Russia, China, etc. Helping to make your commerce more valuable is closely tied to making your citizens more valuable.
I do not know whose interests Joe Wilson was representing in Africa during his trips. The CIA doesn't always dispatch officers for the United States. They also have key interests in maintaining relationships with other political entities with power -- Russia, France, China, etc. The CIA may have been trying to obtain information to help the espinoge activities of another country like France in dispatching Wilson and other officers to Niger.
According to this President's Memo on Disclosures to the Congress the following people would have been told (including House members).
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Other sites compared names of officials to the court paper's redactions of the first "leaker" to Robert Novak. They found "Armitage" was a good fit for the censored parts. Has anyone considered Mary McCarthy? McCarthy is identical in length to "Armitage" in the courier font like that used in the FR posting box, though the FR font is different for completed posts. I checked MS Word too.
But they aren't equal in some other fonts. Anyone know what font the court documents were?
"Espinoge isn't really legal at all. Almost all of the activities of espinoge are explicitly illegal."
Yeah, that would be true of espionage. I was thinking more of his business conflicts of interest in my post. He's made a few denials of having violated nepotism laws for government employees.
"Anyone know what font the court documents were?"
No, but I'll see if I can find out. Interesting. . .
Why would Woodward be interviewing McCarthy? I'm afraid Armitage is the source.
Also, the judge has so far accepted Fitzgerald's representation that the name of the unidentified government official should be kept secret to protect his reputation. I doubt he'd continue that ruling were it McCarthy.
Good question- perhaps we should ping Buckhead
The press doesn't really ask Senator Rockefeller about any of this. The only guy I know that asks politicians about this stuff is Alex Jones.
The best book on this stuff is Carol Quigley's(Georgetown professor to President Clinton and Amb. Wilson) "Tragedy & Hope".
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Makes one wonder if Obama’s war on Libya was to cover up nuclear trade by US politicians...
Search keyword Symbion... Joe’s involved in the Hillary Clinton email thing.
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