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To: PJ-Comix
  PJ, you should check out this little tidbit unfolding over at Wikipedia's DU article.

Talk:Democratic Underground

don't know how long the du article project has been extant, but from a general reading of the 'talk' thread, it appears ample evidence of du's malfeasance already exists. but what's lacking in most of these testimonials is a direct connection between censorship and banning and how that is a direct result of allen and co appeasing du's dominant financial contributors. a smoking gun email perhaps that records, for example, a favored contributors's instructions to allen or one of his business associates that if such and such's 'anti-semitic' or anti-military posts are not deleted and the member banned, then 'my' money and i are going elsewhere. well, that probably won't happen for the very reason they delete messages in the first place. to destroy evidence of their skullduggery. it's extremely unlikely that zionist b is going to come forward to implicate himself in the shakedown or that gomer pyle a will voluntarily admit he put the screws to the owner using his recurring charge as leverage for the sole purpose of removing words that offend his pre-nuremburg view of the world and the military's role in it. so, as scholars seeking truth, we must find another avenue to arrive at it. i like my idea of an impartial observer who can give us a summary, including analysis, of du manipulations and how they directly tie to allen and associates bank accounts. an amazing randy kind of gal or fella who debunks for the love of debunking. for my money, there's a lot of bunk in need of some righteous debunking at democratic underground. a seasoned sociologist would find the field most fertile there. hell, a seasoned detective working bunko would find it simply appalling. -st just 22:43, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Your long list of names is Original Research and violates WP policy and doesn't belong in the Article. Nor is it referenceable work in the article. I wouldn't have reverted it on the talk page but I can see why.--Tbeatty 22:58, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

let's play reverts, then. this is annotative research conducted by third party sources at du, and not mine, but rather from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

bluedogs, yellowdogs, and brownshirts reign at du

loveohblues, skittles, speed0898, b calm, retired af dem, magellen, alomom, usafguy99, yorgatron, haele, rushisrot, diverdave, darbyusmc, symbolman, deaconblues, thomwv, aristus, speedoo, leftofthedial, kirinon, fightingirish, dees, toots, br_parkway, bluecollar, hubert flotz, nookiemonster, pecwae, stand and fight, k blagburn, oasis, lpbk2713, chascaz, PsN2Wind, ohtransplant, annarbor, nonconformist, pfitz59, Tinksrival, nealmhughes, yellowdogmi, NaturalHigh, bonzotex, Jai4WKC08, cynatnite, SalmonChantedEvening, arnheim, HeeBGBz, astonamous, happydreams, dogman, hack89, rppper, Moody Bluz, nathan hale, TahitiNut, DemoGreen, TacticalPeek, AZDemDist6, hootinholler, Hanover_Fist, Vickers, GreatCaesarsGhost, Prisoner_Number_Six, Pam-Moby, Career Prole, tkmorris, DemoTex, Renegade Six, RobertSeattle, onestarnot, oneighty, landdaddy, slater71, UTUSN, MadMaddie, Jack Rabbit, tabasco, hwmnbn, BewilderedCitizen, jokerman93, LIBERALNAVYVET, Earth_First, genie_weenie, oneold1-4u, Dees, BrotherBuzz, Bigmack, Tierra_y_Libertad, bpilgrim, lldu, alfredo, Kerry fan, meatloaf, ismnotwasm, TX-RAT, Chef, tabasco, madokie, Nickster, TomInTib, paineinthearse, Ron_Green, Uncle Joe, benddem, leeroysphits, fknobbit, MrsGrumpy, jschurchin

thanks go to one current and one past moderator at democratic underground for providing me this list. according to them, each one on this list has been cautioned by site owner, david allen one time or more about being too obvious in their uh, fascist leanings. no threats about being banned were involved, just friendly warnings to the effect of being a bit more circumspect in their future posts. gotta keep the dough rolling in, dontcha know, and man do these people love to give. average amount of their donations were about one hundred dollars a quarter, with the largest donations around 1,000 dollars a quarter. one third of the donars on the list admitted in emails to du staff that they were regular and welcomed posters at 'arch-nemisis' site, free republic. again, thanks go to those two du mods who were kind and honest enough to provide these details of david allen's malfeasant mistreatment of his more naive members (they would be the progressive and true democrats, there- their avereage donations are around 5 and ten dollars a month, if that). and those du mods' names are...now, wouldn't you like to know? -st just

If it's not original research then show me how I can verify it. Where is it published? By who is it publised? Who fact checked it, etc, etc,? These are all requirements for sources. I am not sure that even then it would be relevant. --Tbeatty 23:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

i should remind the person who reverted my last post, without reading it first, that i am working from a confidential du source, a source whose identity will be revealed in 72 hours, with bonafides in tow.

my source at du has advised me today that the above list of du donars pertain to donations made between late 2004 and mid 2005. the following names fall into the same catagory as those above, that is to say, routinely attached to threats to withold future donations, or rescind recurring charge donations if posts and/or posters contrary to their interests (mostly pro-troop and pro-israel) are allowed to remain. except these latest tabulated donations were made between late 2005 and february of 2006, ie, the end of the first fiscal quarter of 2005/2006. now, the names:

acmejack, trumad, sparosnare, caution, fenris, madokie, Absolute Armorer, 1rstCav, WesDem, Army, SammyBlue, MADem, cryingshame, Hekate, benddem, Jim Sagle, Behind the Aegis, Mr Prax, Colorado Blue, Minnesota Liberal, nini, BL611, Burning Water, Katherine Brengle.

My source also informs me that a point of much humor among the democratic underground's owner and staff is the certainty that the appearance in a member's user's name of the word liberal, democrat, blue, left, progressive or any variation thereof means the member is either a covert republican or a right-centrist or a dlc-style democrat.

another tasty little tidbit relayed in my source's email concerned du's 'resident scribbler', a fellow with the username, will pitt. she says that pitt- as rabid and irrational a troop supporter as she's ever seen in her tenure as a mod- has 27 unique user names that he regularly marshalls to pump up responses to his own posts or to posts of members he's sympathetic to. 27 user names for one member? what a wicked web. but then again, practiced deception seems to be david allen's and du's forte.

in the interest of full disclosure i should tell readers that i am a du member and post under the name abex. or, should i say, i WAS a member of du until now. as well, my current du source is planning on resigning her mod duties in three days and has given me permission to reveal her identity after she makes it offical. stay tuned.-st just St just 02:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

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86 posted on 03/20/2006 6:47:11 PM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: RWR8189
Hmm, looks like we already know that the DUFU will be about come Thursday...assuming there is still a DU, of course.
89 posted on 03/20/2006 8:40:30 PM PST by decal (My name is "decal" and I approve this tagline)
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