Who killed Slobodan Milosevic?

sandersresearch.com ^ | March 14, 2006 | John Laughland

[Cicero]

Yes, we fought the Yugoslav war on the wrong side. No question about it. All the parties were guilty of various crimes in the course of their struggles. The whole thing goes back hundreds of years into the past. Nevertheless, clinton intervened to help the Muslims invade Kosovo and cleanse it of Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies.

As for the International Criminal Court, it is completely illegitimate. Who gave them the power to try Milosevitch, other than the raw power of having conquered his country? It has no authority and no jurisdiction, beyond the law of the sword and conquest.

[Fred Nerks]

"Presiding Judge Richard May asked Milosevic where he was getting his information and the defendant waved a document he said was produced by the FBI last December documenting al-Qaeda and mujahedin activity in Kosovo."

Whoops! Someone told the truth at The Hague and surprise surprise they are dead now.

[A. Pole]

Judge May is dead too. Maybe he asked too many questions.

[Jo Nuvark]

This whole Bosnia thing needs a slide show. I have a difficult time getting my
head around it without pictures and color charts. All I know is... Clinton took
the side of Muslims. That's crazy. Milosevic may not have been a great leader,
but at least he knew the enemy when he saw it face to face.

Americans should be very suspicious of Milosevic's death. It's got Clinton all
over it.

[Jo Nuvark]

Is it possible that some day Milosevic will be seen as a martyr?

[Joey Silvera]

No, it isn't.

[Fred Nerks]

The Holocaust in Bosnia-Hercegovina, 1941-1945

by Carl K. Savich

Bosnia-Hercegovina has for over a millennium been a battleground where the world's major religions, civilizations, cultures, and empires have clashed and collided: Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Islam, Judaism, the Ottoman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the medieval Serbian, Croatian,and Bosnian Empires, the East and the West. Bosnia-Hercegovina was the dividing line between East and West, between Catholicism and the West and Orthodoxy, Islam, and Judaism and the East. The churches, the cathedrals,the mosques, and the synagogues are the remaining symbols of this battle and conflict between cultures and empires.

World War I began in Bosnia, one of the bloodiest and most horrific wars in the history of mankind, ushering in the twentieth century. The Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78 sprang from the 1875 insurrection in Bosnia-Hercegovina. During World War II, Bosnia-Hercegovina was one of the bloodiest battlefields of the war and of the Holocaust.

The Bosnian Serbs are representatives of the Orthodox Christian Church and of the Byzantine culture and are part of the larger Serbian nation. The Bosnian Croats are representatives of the Roman Catholic Church and the Austro-Hungarian culture and are part of the Croatian nation. The Bosnian Muslims are representatives of Sunni Islam and were part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire and culture. The Bosnian Jews are representatives of Judaism and are mostly descendants of Sephardic Jews expelled from Spain following the Inquisition and expulsion of the Jews.

From 1941-1945, Bosnia-Hercegovina was part of the NDH, Nezavisna Drzava Hrvatska, the Independent State of Croatia and was one of the bloodiest arenas of the Holocaust and battlefields of the war. With the assistance of Haj Amin el Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and Reichsfuehrer SS Heinrich Himmler, the Bosnian Muslim leadership undertook the systematic extermination of the Jewish and non-Muslim, non-Croat population of Bosnia-Hercegovina. Two Waffen SS Divisions and other Nazi and fascist formations were formed to advance the goals of the Third Reich and of Islam. The goal of the Muslims was to achieve autonomy and independence for Bosnia-Hercegovina under Muslim rule. The period 1941-1945 is crucial in understanding and comprehending the Bosnian civil war of 1992-1995.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem

Haj Amin el Husseini fled to Europe in 1941 following the unsuccessful pro-Nazi coup which he organized in Iraq. He met Joachim von Ribbentrop and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. Nazi Germany established for der Grossmufti von Jerusalem a Bureau from which he organized the following: 1) radio propaganda on behalf of Nazi Germany; 2) espionage and fifth column activities in Muslim regions of Europe and the Middle East; 3) the formation of Muslim Waffen SS and Wehrmacht units in Bosnia, the Balkans, North Africa, and Nazi-occupied areas of the Soviet Union; and, 4) the formation of schools and training centers for Muslim imams and mullahs who would accompany the Muslim SS and Wehrmacht units. As soon as he arrived in Europe,the Mufti established close contacts with Bosnian Muslim and Albanian Muslim leaders. He would spend the remainder of the war organizing and rallying Muslims in support of Nazi Germany.

Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el Husseini was born in 1893 in Jerusalem, then the capital of Palestine, which was a part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire. In 1917, during World War I, the British occupied Palestine and established the Mandate. On November 2, 1917, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour announced that Britain was committed to establishing a Jewish homeland in formerly Ottoman Palestine, which was known as the Balfour Declaration of 1917.

Husseini devoted his entire life and career to the destruction of a proposed Jewish homeland and the prevention of Jewish immigration into Palestine. His goal was to create an Arab state of Palestine with the concomitant extermination or marginalization of the Jewish population..."

(Running through the carnage of two world wars is islam, islam, islam...who said 'you don't win wars by laying down your life for your country, you let the other fellow die for his?' Seems islam has perfected the art of setting us against each other so we do the killing for them. Read carefully):

Gavrilo Princip in prison cell in Theresienstadt

Gavrilo Princip (Serbian Cyrillic: Гаврило Принцип) (July 25, 1894 April 28, 1918) was a Bosnian Serb nationalist who killed Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria, and his wife Countess Sophie in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914. The event, known as the assassination in Sarajevo, prompted the Austrian action against Serbia that led to World War I.

Early Life Born in Obljaj, Bosansko Grahovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. Gavrilo Princip's parents, Petar and Marija Nana Mičić, had nine children, five sons and four daughters, six of whom died in infancy. His health was poor. From an early age, he suffered from tuberculosis, which was his eventual cause of death in 1918, and was also one of the reasons he let himself kill Archduke Ferdinand in the first place.

Princip attended primary school in Grahovo where he excelled in his studies, especially in romantic and historic literature. A teacher at the school gave him a collection of Serbian heroic folk poetry. At thirteen, Princip planned on a military career and went to Sarajevo to study at the Military School. After arriving, he instead chose to pursue a business career so he enrolled in the Merchant's School where he studied for three years.

Contrary to common belief, Princip was not a member of the Black Hand, but was a member of the group Young Bosnia (Mlada Bosna), which he joined in 1911. The Young Bosnia Movement was a group made up of Serbs, Croats, and Bosnian Muslims, committed to achieving independence for Bosnia.

[Cicero]

To be honest, I think Milosevitch had too many flaws to be a martyr. To some extent, he provoked the three-way war that accompanied the breakup of Yugoslavia. He was more at fault in Bosnia, probably, than in Kosovo.

Nevertheless, it remains true that we fought on the wrong side, against our old Serb allies, and on behalf of Albanian Muslim terrorists. And unlike Bush's conduct of the Iraq war, Clinton deliberately targeted civilians in Belgrade. He didn't kill them by accident, in the course of bombing legitimate targets, he killed them on purpose.

Even though Milosevitch was far from sinless, the ICC has no jurisdiction to try him. It has shown its partiality by favoring one faction over another, as if crimes of various sorts were not committed by all three factions.

[Jo Nuvark]

Thank you Cicero, for helping me to understand this. It is very complex and
I needed to have my "hunches" validated. The media has painted Milosovic as
evil. That makes me suspicious. When important people die in prison, I'm
suspicious. His trial was delayed and in the eyes of the world, Milosovic just
"went away". That made me suspicious. This story isn't over.

[Fred Nerks]

I guess you could say this is what happens if you try to fight islam while there's a Clintoon in the Whitehouse? Arafat gets invited to spend the weekend and Milosovic is thrown to the wolves at The Hague and has his lights turned out...

From trial transcripts:

MILOSEVIC: Please bear in mind the following: For three years, the same doctors have considered me fit from the point of view of health to function, and you yourselves have been able to see that. Even Mr. Nice, in support of his motion that I be given as little time as possible, put forward the argument that I have been functioning very efficiently. So for three years the same doctors have considered me fit to function. Then an independent doctor turns up from Belgium, the country which is the seat of the NATO pact, and he says I'm unfit and then the doctors here agree with him.

Allow me to bring into question this kind of deduction of medical evidence. Please consider my motion and let the experts evaluate the situation, but I ask for an expert from Russia, from Serbia, from Greece, and then you can add two of your own, if you like, whom you will appoint, to see what this is about. Things are being mystified here when in fact they are very simple.

I see this as a manipulation aimed at depriving me of my right to speak here and to speak the truth. That is the essence of it all. Mr. Nice says in support of his argument that a lawyer should be imposed on me, counsel should be imposed on me, that I am too involved and am unable to be dispassionate. However, I feel that the other side is too dispassionate when it comes to the truth. I cannot, of course, interfere in how the other side do their job, but they cannot interfere in the way I exercise my rights. That too is a question of principle. Therefore I wish to reiterate: My right to defend myself is something that I will neither accept having diminished nor will I ever waive it. Please bear that in mind. And you can reach your own decisions, but I receive the medicaments given to me by your people, your employees. What is happening here, I don't know, but I can bring the whole floor of the Detention Unit here to testify to what happened when the food I had was exchanged with the food of the person across the passageway, and there was a big to-do about setting things right, although the food apparently was the same. It appeared to be the same. And I did not raise the issue. I don't know what was going on. But please be kind enough to bear in mind that when, for three years, they have been saying one thing and now suddenly they turn around and say something else, I am right in having suspicions. My suspicions may or may not be justified, but they are well grounded--

[Cut off by Judges as Trial Chamber Confers]

[Cicero]

No. The truth may never come out officially, but I think they murdered him. The fact that he was not a saint doesn't excuse that.

Most wars involve acts of injustice. That doesn't mean you can take the losing head of state, give him a kangaroo trial, and murder him when things don't work out according to plan.

[rfreedom4u]

I'm about as concerned about this as I am about who kills the roaches in our neighborhood.

[A. Pole]

Most wars involve acts of injustice. That doesn't mean you can take the losing head of state, give him a kangaroo trial, and murder him when things don't work out according to plan.

And yet as we look at the past, since ancient times it was a common practice - Romans had a proverb - "Vae Victis" - "Woe to the conquered". I am sure you knew it :)

[Lion in Winter]

IF you are so disinterested.... Then WHY oh, WHY did you post on this thread???? To waste our time???? geezzzze

[A. Pole]

I'm about as concerned about this as I am about who kills the roaches in our neighborhood.

Some day YOU might be such a "roach".

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
   because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
   because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
   because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
   because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
   and there was no one left to speak out for me.

(Pastor Martin Niemoeller) 

[Cicero]

At least that was honest. No pretense about handing them over to a bogus "impartial" court.

Moreover it's not clear that Milosevitch was the enemy. And the UN never authorized the war. And clinton never declared war.

At least the Romans were finicky about such matters. They sided with allies, fought against enemies, and always took care to go through the proper rituals for declaring war.

[Joey Silvera]

We nevered declared war on North Vietnam, and the UN didn't authorize it.

[Cicero]

No, I was mainly speaking about the Romans, a subject raised by a_Pole. They were pretty fanatical about going through all the proper rituals of declaring war.

My chief objection to clinton's war with Yugoslavia is that it was fought on the wrong side, and with totally unreal multicultural expectations that all the factions would get along once they were instructed in the ideals of the New World Order.

[Just A Nobody]

Thanks for the ping. Bookmark for later read.

[Lion in Winter]

And apparently, the Albanians clans in Kosovo did not get the memo.

You know the one, it was announcing that they need to be civilised to fit into the NWO.