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To: farmer18th
and so what we see as "moderate" Muslims are really apostate Muslims.

well said for a farmer. ;) I don't know if this is true, it certainly would hold if your initial premise about Islam is correct. I will tell you, I have heard it said that Islam produces slaves to rules, and that, as we all know, is the road to death -- just think of Judaism by the time Jesus walked the earth -- look at the way the Pharisees dealt with transgressors -- it was positively inhumane.

There is a key to this, I think. I can see it, but I am not sure I can describe it in any way other than the most cursory sketch, and that is this: Mary. The intercession of Mary (my apologies if you don't see the importance of Mary to the Church).

My friend informed me, during one of our chats, that the Koran has a book about Mary in it. He knew nothing more about it (which I suppose supports your argument that a moderate Muslim is an apostate one -- and forces me to clarify the term "devout" -- he was sincere so far as he was a practicing Muslim).

In any event, I believe a holy woman, a mother's desire, would be an end to this hostility between sons. And if it is to be, I believe Mary will be the key.

5 posted on 02/26/2006 12:48:47 PM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Who is it, really, making up your mind?")
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To: the invisib1e hand
Iwell said for a farmer. ;)

Jefferson was a farmer. ;). BR>
We don't agree on Mary, but perhaps we would on Christ.

I'm even open to the notion that George Bush and the neocoms, by drugging Muslims and Chicoms with free trade and western goodies, may be on to something, but I'm a student of history. Ronald Regan called the Evil Empire what it was--and the wall fell down. He didn't say, "Commies--we know you mean well."
6 posted on 02/26/2006 12:53:05 PM PST by farmer18th
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