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I'm going to give you as a source, the correct report in detail.

Rejected.

The "correct report" is located on the Republika Srpska's website: The Events In And Around Srebrenica Between 10th And 19th July 1995.

There's also the Dutch NIOD report Srebrenica - A 'Safe' Area, which gives an overview of the enclave from the start of the war through it's overrunning by Serb forces.

What you're trying to bring to the table is revisionist crap, plain and simple. Are you seriously trying to forward Edward Herman, who co-authored the reprehensible "After the Cataclysm" with Noam Chomsky as a reputable source?

Denying Srebrenica is small potatoes to someone like Herman who's taken the position that the Vietnamese Communist and Khmer Rouge mass murder campaigns were "overreported" and that Pol Pot only killed 25,000 Cambodians. 7,000 Bosnians? Hell, that's just a rounding error in Herman's calculus of denial.

Can I get you to endorse the "Living Marxism" Trnopolje report while you're at it? Might as well go for broke if you're going to get into bed with the idiots Tom.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the United States government, in direct opposition to your egregiously stupid position on the matter has stated the following, for the record, through the US Embassy's Charge d'Affairs in Belgrade, Roderick Moore:

It is an indisputable fact that, ten years ago, Serb forces under the command of Ratko Mladic massacred almost 8000 Bosnians in the enclave of Srebrenica. This atrocity has been documented through thousands of testimonials by witnesses and relatives, through the discovery of numerous mass graves, and even through last year's admission by the government of the Republika Srpska that Serb forces conducted the killings.

You see that Tom? Indisputable. Loosely translated it means that only a fool would attempt to deny it.

But then, as Srebrenica has become something of an IQ test, it's not surprising to see what side of the issue you come down on, is it.

Lastly, the OSCE Voter's Registers from 1997 and 1998 produced 9 matches with the consolodated ICRC and PHR Srebrenica Missing List, which when added to the 6 individuals found alive since 1997 left 7,475 persons dead or missing, and that 7,475 stands to this day as the best estimate of Srebrenica related dead or missing. Accounting for Genocide: How many were killed in Srebrenica? (.doc)

You're nothing but a disinformation vector hired by the losers in the Balkan's race wars Tom. As soon as you step outside of Kosovo you're in over your head, reduced to indiscriminately clinging to whatever rotten branches you can reach as the tide of history washes you down the gutter.

Scraped! and Rejected......

It is not indisputable just because you say so. I will challenge it as you are vastly outnumbered by the true accounts and not the spinning accounts. The entire venture to the Balkans was built on gross exaggerations and in some cases, fabrications. It's called an official spin and I have a person called General Enver Hadzihasanovic that disputes your version and Indisputable facts. Granted, in his testimony he claims 8,000 to 9,000 killed but then says that it's not consistent: Notice the "Certainty figure"....

Quote: "We also established that the number of individuals who were killed in the column was between 8.300 and 9.722. At that time the information we received was not consistent, but that was the approximate figure that we managed to establish. One can (20)claim for certainty that 2.628 members, both soldiers and commanding officers, members of the 28th Division, were killed"

testimony:

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(1)us that there were cases of mistreatment and killing in the immediate vicinity of Potocari, and I believe that the Court has heard evidence of the eyewitnesses to those events. I don't want to go into those details, but I know that such incidents were common there at that time. (5)The first review of troops took place on the 25th of July, 1995, and after that review, we managed to establish that 2.080 members of the 28th Division managed to pierce the front lines, and it was our assumption that there were probably several other members of the 28th Division who had gone to the village of Ciljuge, where there was a very big settlement (10)organised for the civilian population who managed to get out. Those members of the division had probably gone to Tuzla to look for the members of their family. So we continued collating the information, to the extent it was possible, and on the 4th of August, 1995, or thereabouts, we managed to (15)establish the accurate number of the members of the 28th Division who managed to get through. The number was 3.175.

We also established that the number of individuals who were killed in the column was between 8.300 and 9.722. At that time the information we received was not consistent, but that was the approximate figure that we managed to establish. One can (20)claim for certainty that 2.628 members, both soldiers and commanding officers, members of the 28th Division, were killed. When the decision was made for a breakthrough, we lost all connection with the column and the command of the division. They just told us, "We are starting. We're on the move towards Tuzla." And (25)"towards Tuzla" is a very broad area, so we didn't know the actual......

http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/des_ar/Apr062001.html#Seite9525

http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/des_ar/

"Srebrenica Propaganda Challenged by Independent Research"

"The premise that Serbian forces executed 7,000 to 8,000 people "was never a possibility," according to former BBC journalist Jonathan Rooper, who investigated on site and through official records over many years the events which followed the capture of Srebrenica, and whose findings are presented in the upcoming report of the Srebrenica Research Group. He noted that by the first week of August 1995, 35,632 people had registered with the World Health Organization and Bosnian Government as displaced persons, survivors of Srebrenica, a figure which was later referred to [in] an Amnesty International report and the report of the Dutch Government."

"Rooper noted that the International Committee of the Red Cross and The New York Times reported that about 3,000 Muslim soldiers who fought their way across Serb held territory to Muslim lines near Tuzla, were also survivors. The ICRC confirmed that these soldiers were redeployed by the Bosnian Army "without their families being informed." The figure of 3,000 soldiers who survived was also confirmed by Muslim Gen. Enver Hadzihasanovic, who testified at The Hague. These figures made it clear that at least 38,000 Srebrenica residents survived out of a population of 40,000 before the capture of the enclave. Around 2,000 Muslims who fled with the 28th Division were killed, most by fighting, but also hundreds executed by paramilitary units and a mercenary group."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050728&articleId=750

The Real Story Behind Srebrenica

http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/jul05/hed7098.shtml