Posted on 02/07/2006 11:48:41 AM PST by immigration lady
There are some people you just can't fool.
Good source material to use against those muzzies who love to argue against you
Wow. This is good. Truth. Painful, but the path to a much better tomorrow.
Quran says; kill, imprison!
Why are you only clinging to the part that talks about mercy?
Mercy is against God.
"We have decided not to live anymore in self-deception but to embrace humanity, enter into the new millennium hand in hand with people or other cultures and beliefs in amity and in peace."
I don't trust the writer. Seems to me he will chop off that hand once our 'secular humanist' world embraces him.
Thanks.
Margaret Hassan was a Muslim
The wedding party in the Jordanian hotel was all Muslim
More non-participatory Muslims have died at the hands of jihadists in Iraq than Americans
You not only have to be Muslim, you have to be the right kind of Muslim. And the right kind of Muslim is defined by the person doing the killing. Not by God.
Best way to argue with most Mooslims is with a gun.
From the same site:
"The lily livered weak Muslims are trying to publicize Islam as religion of peace and our great apostle as a soft hearted man to appease their western infidel masters... They insult him by saying that he was the kindest man who ever lived. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Had Islam been a religion of peace nobody would have been a Muslim today. Masahallah we have 1.2 billion Muslims and are growing very fast. Had our apostle been a very kind man, he would have died a destitute widower instead of dieing a wealthy polygamist with 9 young beautiful wives, lot of property and a large number of slave men and women.
The fact is that our apostle was a very successful terrorist, the likes of whom the world had not seen nor will they ever see, and he was darned proud of it."
I don't know, froufrou. If you read most of the postings here, they are inflamed over the religion of Islam and what it represents. It's not just one person - there are a lot of them.
Remember, people change once they gain knowledge and wisdom. As most of the writers on the linked site will claim - they may be of muslim heritage but they are not of Islam. I haven't seen anything on this particular site that makes me believe that all these former muslims are "faking it". Maybe they are but I don't believe so.
I think some are waking up. Remember, Christianity in its early stages was anything but humanitarian. It took 500 years to go from fierce fighting in the name of God to the peace-loving critters we have become. Do not expect miracles to happen over night. There is a long road ahead and it's not going to be easy and sometimes we have to look for the specks of light along the way. I think that this may be one of those specks.
"The lily livered weak Muslims are trying to publicize Islam as religion of peace and our great apostle as a soft hearted man to appease their western infidel masters... They insult him by saying that he was the kindest man who ever lived. Nothing could be farther from the truth."
Immigration lady, nothing would please me more than for you to be right. But, do you not see how the forked tongue tone of the above is indicative of the probability that lies will be told until the time is right?
I don't know what to think about this article. The fact that it verifies what most of us think, doesn't keep it from being disturbing.
Christianity in its early stages anything but humanitarian? How is that? What massacres occurred because of Roman and Mediterranian Christians? They were basically too powerless to do anything, anyway, much less did their "leader" teach it.
All you have to do is look at the religion's founders - what did Jesus do that was brutal or merciless? Did he advocate such brutality to promote himself or even God?
NO.
Huge difference. To borrow from the commiedems - It's the RELIGION, stupid. ;-)
oh, please, don't anyone think that I am a softy here towards Islam. Um - that is a resounding NOT! I'm all for publishing more cartoons of crackhead Muhammad and anyone who has seen my other posts elsewhere know that I think we should pretty much level the middle east, seize Iran's oil fields, offer free oil to all countries who will help guard the oil fields, assasinate Pres. Iamacowardajid or however you spell his name. Well you get the picture.
However, and I do say this cautiously, there are some muslims that I believe have renounced their religion and they are the ones that fight along side us. they are the ones who rally against Islamofacsism. They are the small, weak and unheard voices that the MSM won't show you. I just don't think we should let our anger blind us to the fact that there may be some people within that are trying to change things just as there are enemies within trying to destroy us.
And no, Jesus did not teach violence but the crusades were anything but peaceful. The only point I was trying to make is that there has been bloodshed over Christianity, too. Zealots who tried to indocrinate the world in the name of the Christian God, even though God and Jesus would have never wanted that nor did they preach it. Fanatics live in every religion, every walk of life. Hitler was a crazy man. It didn't mean all Germans were like him. Even though many carried out Hitler's deeds, that did not mean they agreed with him. It was more of a survival thing. Ask the new pope. He was a member of Hitler's youth until he ran away.
Somewhere, we have to be able to separate the good from the bad. We have to trust to a certain extent or we lose what makes us Americans. We as Americans cannot become the hate or we have stooped to the enemy's level.
Now, if we trust and they betray - well, now, they just opened up a whole can of whoop a%$ and deserve everything they get!
AFBUY (A Fatwa Be Upon You)
Funny, I've been coming to this conclusion myself recently watching events unfold worldwide. I wish I had been wrong on this one.
Satan founded Islam when he seduced a very drugged-up Mohammed.
He came to him as "an angel of light," which the Holy Bible warns us about.
2 Corinthians 11:14 says it all, and the Muslims represent all that Satan promotes.
Fellow Christians, keep your faith and never stop praying.
Source:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
2 Corinthians 11:14
"the crusades were anything but peaceful."
The Crusades - albeit not quite as evil as every1 likes to say - were not "early Christianity" and certainly not the 1st 500 years. So yes, I took issue w/those inaccuracies.
I didn't think you were soft on Islam. I just don't like it when people try to equivocate between Islam and Christianity. No matter the (misguided, unlike certain religions) brutality of some Christian eras or rulers, they are as nothing compared to Moslems. And that's the (common-sense) truth. Exactly because Islam DEMANDS it.
As far as who is on our side - obviously any1 NOT a Moslem could be. You're talking about EX-Moslems, not "moderate" Moslems, either. Make that clear. Moderate in Islam isn't good enough. It's a nasty religion, based on its *doctrine*, much less its history.
Originally, the Crusades were Roman Catholic Holy Wars to recapture Jerusalem and all parts of the Holy Land from the Muslims. Some wars became directed, mistakenly so, against Europeans. The violent crusades actually took place during the 11th and 13th centuries and the crusades in the Baltics actually carried forward to the 16th century and have always been regarded as savage. And I said it took us 500 years to overcome the violence of the crusades and we should not expect for the Muslim population to just stop the way they think overnight. I guess I should have said that the christian world has been at peace for the last 500 - 600 years but not after much blood spilled in the name of God for 5 centuries.
You are correct in that Muslims demand obedience. But history tells us that all religions, even Christianity, is not above violence and repression. Let's not forget the Inquisitions which were historical movements by the Catholic church to suppress heresy. We, the west, used to be a very savage people when it came to our religion. We have learned the ways of peace and understanding - tolerance, but it did not occur overnight.
These hardline fanatics should be shot at the gates of the embassies for attacking foreign soil. The Muslim who killed the catholic priest in Turkey in cold blood and shouted Allah is great should be sentenced to death immediately. The violent protestors should be taught a lesson - even if it takes dropping tons of tear gas on them or perhaps a bomb. Just don't expect them to become tolerant anytime soon.
there are many Muslim Americans. Many died on 9/11 and their blood spilled just as easily and with just as much pain as the New Yorkers, the Italians, the Germans, the Jews, and the Asians. We have red blooded Americans who are trying to bring this country down and they are in seats of power. We have people who hate our president so much that they will undermine all that he does, even if it means that this country will perish because of it. They are the ones working with the fanatics and they are the ones we must also watch with the eyes of a hawk - not so much Mr. and Mrs. Amajid who have their own business, and pay taxes and are good upstanding people in their communities. Have we really become that intolerant that we can't see that not all Muslims are radical weirdos? Are you afraid to sit next to a Muslim on a subway for fear he has a bomb in his suitcase? I hope this is not what our country is coming to. There is a fine line of being diligent/watchful and paranoid/angry.
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