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To: MaDuce
Read the book "Mobility of a Nation" by the marine corps press and you can see why the concept of the M-16 was considered valid. the Ability of a soldier/marine to carry more rounds per combat load of equipment was the driving force behind the change. I believe in tests the M-16 with their ballistic pattern and "kill ratio" were similar to the 7.62m. Higher speed (FPS)of the M-16 round helped with the internal damage. However, I do know that I would rather carry the pig (M-60) over the M-249 and an M-14 over a M-16. weight was a factor in the choice of the 5.56m round but the ability of the 7.62 for penetration and damage per weight ratio is the best.

p.s. the logistics branch of the military has been providing some of the worst equipment on Americans ever since the Civil War (i.e. fns Italian battle rifle used during the 1898 Spanish war and the French machine gun during WWI)
38 posted on 01/11/2006 8:02:34 PM PST by Liaison (Semper Gumbi- Always Flexible---- ;))
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To: Liaison

"I believe in tests the M-16 with their ballistic pattern and "kill ratio" were similar to the 7.62m. Higher speed (FPS)of the M-16 round helped with the internal damage."

The text book theory's alwayhs sound good, but in actuallity the 5.56 is not what it is all cracked up to be. The military guys in Afganastan and Iraq are wanting M14's and the US is (unbenounced to many), frevorishly reconditioning and producing as many M14's as they possibly can. Just try to go buy a new M14/M1A from Fulton Armory or any other company ... you'll be waiting a good long time, but you can ge an AR15 at the drop of a hat.
The real problem boils down to marksmenship. In WWI the "Doughboys" could drop Germans with their 03's from 800 yrds!! One shot one kill was a consept long before the snipers took it over. The tradition of riflemen in America has been almost lost. If marksmenship was a major virtue, then weight would not be such a factor since it would take a soldier only 1 or 2 shots to dispatch an enemy combatent instade of spraying 30, 40, or 50 rounds of the small stuff.


69 posted on 01/12/2006 4:23:07 AM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
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To: Liaison

" However, I do know that I would rather carry the pig (M-60) over the M-249"

The M-60 has been replaced by the M-240G as our Medium Machine Gun. The M-249 still is what it has always has been; the Squad Automatic Weapon (it is as it's always been a POS). The 240G is a reliable machine gun, though a little heavier than the 60, and still chambered in 7.62


91 posted on 01/12/2006 2:49:53 PM PST by sean327 (All men are created equal, then some become Marines!)
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