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Maye on Death Row; Shot Police Officer breaking into daughters bedroom
The Hattiesburg American | January 23, 2004 | Hattiesburg American

Posted on 12/10/2005 6:28:19 AM PST by TennMountains

Edited on 12/11/2005 12:54:13 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Mojave
Possibly. The jury heard all of the facts and rendered a verdict.

And cops have NEVER manipulated facts to fit their scenario that they are pure as the driven snow! Get real, the jury was going by what the same cops who busted in on this guy told them. The cops stand by their own, right or wrong, and if this story is the way it was written, they were wrong in this case.

I have been victim of cops serving a warrent at the wrong house, my house. They were looking for someone I had never heard of and I didn't have time to get my gun(which I now keep on my person at all times)and was roughed up and thrown against the wall(complaints later were ignored by the officer's superiors)and shouted down when I tried to ask what was going on. They searched my house without a warrent, because the one they had was for a house not even close to mine, subjected me to humiliation and were never brought to account for it. Don't tell me that cops are all wonderful, law abiding citizens. The police forces of this country are full of a**holes who love the power and misuse it constantly.

181 posted on 12/10/2005 10:12:33 AM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: calex59
Even if the officer properly identified himself, if the facts are as represented, a young man with no criminal record and in the process of protecting his home and child should be presumed innocent. Unless there's some good evidence to show that he's lying about not knowing it was the police busting in he should not spend one day in jail. He's only duty that night was to protect his child. If the police wanted to be sure that he knew who they were, they should have waited until he answered their knock at the door. This appears to be a tragety, which resulted from tragety.

I previously have not given no-knock warrants much thought. I now find it difficult to believe that whatever benefit as been gained from no-knock warrants, they can not begin to justify the cost of this single case. One fine young man dead, and what appears to be another, in jail on death row is too high a price.
182 posted on 12/10/2005 10:13:47 AM PST by TennMountains
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To: Mojave
Or if the perp lied about not hearing the announcement.

Why would a man with no criminal record, not pay attention to cops screaming out they are police and decide to shoot one? This doesn't make sense. It is more likely the cop didn't announce himself when he broke in.

183 posted on 12/10/2005 10:18:54 AM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: calex59
Why would a man with no criminal record, not pay attention to cops screaming out they are police and decide to shoot one? This doesn't make sense. It is more likely the cop didn't announce himself when he broke in.

Or he didn't hear it. It is kind of odd to me that if someone were to decide to shoot it out with the cops- that he'd fire only three shots and then he'd suddenly stop and put down the weapon.

And why on earth would this guy decide to intentionally shoot it out with the cops if he knew he didn't have any drugs or anything in the house?

Based on what we *think* we know about this case at this point- and the information is admittedly thin- it sounds more like a tragedy than a crime.

184 posted on 12/10/2005 10:25:12 AM PST by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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To: Sociopathocracy
Local law enforcement officials have refused to say what the officers were searching for or whether Mayes was a suspect in the raid.

It should have been specified in the warrant. They did have a warrant, right?

Right?

185 posted on 12/10/2005 10:26:06 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

http://www.theagitator.com/archives/025962.php#025962

I would too!


186 posted on 12/10/2005 10:28:42 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: wyattearp

"They did have a warrant, right?"

Umm...sort of.
http://www.theagitator.com/archives/025971.php

But all we have is this guy's blog at this point. Time will tell.


187 posted on 12/10/2005 10:29:16 AM PST by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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To: fnord
thanks, will be interesting to see how this develops

I'm giving 10-1 that this case will be thrown out on appeal or at least have the charge changed to something much less than murder....

188 posted on 12/10/2005 10:33:30 AM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: All
Where is Jesse, Sharpton, NAACP and the rest? It seems they might have a actual case of real prejudice this time.

Let us continue to watch this case closer. The overview seems like some sort of "white justice" occurred. The trial might have offered some other evidence not stated in the article which was sympathetic to the prosecution.
189 posted on 12/10/2005 10:35:28 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

That's the point of the hurried entry and all the yelling and shouting--to disorient the people inside the building.

Usually, nothing happens that results in a death--but sometimes ---- happens.

There have been other notorious cases, sometimes where the death of the homeowner occurs. And in some of them, the police were at the wrong home with an invalid warrant.

---- happens.


190 posted on 12/10/2005 10:37:54 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Riley
Or he didn't hear it. It is kind of odd to me that if someone were to decide to shoot it out with the cops- that he'd fire only three shots and then he'd suddenly stop and put down the weapon.

Yeah. He decides to shoot it out with the cops...a guy with NO record (fact), wh is not listed in the warrant (fact) and has no drugs in his house (fact)...so in his mind...these wouldn't be cops. If you knew you had 100 lbs of coke in your house...then the guys busting in your door at 2 am are likely to be cops. This guy decides to shoot it out and then stop when he hears the word "police?" knowing he doesn't have any reason for police to be there in the first place?

Yeah...that makes a LOT of sense. I think It's the cops busting in...so I'll shoot one then stop...even though I've never done an illegal act in my life...I'll KILL a cop...knowing it's a cop and then stop shotting. Those who think he "MURDERED" a cop...THINK about the LOGIC of that. Never done an illegal act to have a record and decides to pick this one night with his daughter in the bedroom to KILL a cop...knowing he's a cop....just because. Think about it.

191 posted on 12/10/2005 10:41:28 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

We're not in disagreement.


192 posted on 12/10/2005 10:44:00 AM PST by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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To: Sociopathocracy

"The defense attempted to prove that Maye did not know the persons breaking in were police officers, and that he was trying to protect his infant son, who was in the bedroom with him."

Was it a son or a daughter?

Weren't also two other persons arrested at the duplex?


193 posted on 12/10/2005 10:52:20 AM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Riley
We're not in disagreement.

I certainly don't presume to know all the facts. The guy could be as guilty as sin....but you could also have a "To Kill a Mockingbird" type of thing going on here where the cop that was killed is a local kid...and the town is outraged and facts matter little. If the guy got stuck with a public defender...he got screwed....again...he might of got what he deserved...who knows....but there might have been a whole lot of "we're gonna get the guy that killed our buddy..."

194 posted on 12/10/2005 10:53:45 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Mojave
...hopefully justice will be rendered swiftly."

Agreed. Which brings the question why did Maye not demand a speedy trial?

195 posted on 12/10/2005 10:58:56 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: YOUGOTIT
"The question is did they have a warrant? If so what was the warrant for or were they at the wrong address again?"

From post #4 above:

Local law enforcement officials have refused to say what the officers were searching for or whether Mayes was a suspect in the raid. Two other residents of the duplex were temporarily detained, but then released without charges, the Associated Press reported.

Why would officials refuse to talk? It sounds suspicious to me.

196 posted on 12/10/2005 10:59:20 AM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: El Gato

"They took a one year old into custody?"

No, they took two other guys who lived in the duplex.

Apparently, there was a gun fight and, hence, enough time for one of the three to hide the drugs if any were on the premises.


197 posted on 12/10/2005 11:10:38 AM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: calex59
the cops are constantly breaking in the doors of the wrong houses.

Don't know about constantly but we certainly do hear about it when it happens. That said, there should be complete surveilance to ascertain the address is correct before making their move. And btw, it was a duplex just FYI

The article does not state whether there is more than one bedroom - all we can do is surmise. I found the headline and the report to be too incomplete and misleading to make an IMO judgement. Again, guessing...they probably did identify themselves at front door, the man may have been sleeping with tv on, and didn't hear. When no answer.....well.

But I don't think the "cop got what he deserved" as you say. Perhaps you meant the system.

At any rate this "news" story is two years old.

198 posted on 12/10/2005 11:12:22 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: YOUGOTIT
The question is did they have a warrant? If so what was the warrant for or were they at the wrong address again?

One of the posted articles seems to indicate that the police did not realize at the time of the raid that this was a duplex apartment. They had a warrant for the search of the neighboring apartment and likely announced themselves upon entry into that.

When they broke into Mr. Maye's place they were unaware that this was a different residence rather than a side door. It is likely then that they would not have announced themselves again as they entered into Mr. Maye's residence and it is clear that they did not have a warrant to enter here. A stupid mistake, but one anyone could make at this time of night. A bad situation all around, but if the article is accurate than I cannot see anyone would hold Maye responsible for the shooting.
199 posted on 12/10/2005 11:14:30 AM PST by EKrusling
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To: YOUGOTIT

I understood it to be at the wrong address. How did this get through a grand jury?


200 posted on 12/10/2005 11:17:53 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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