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The Conservative Betrayal
World Net Daily ^ | 12/09/2005 | Melanie Morgan

Posted on 12/09/2005 11:13:54 AM PST by Impeach98

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To: Impeach98

Bravo Melanie!!! Encore!!! We are not worth, etc.!!!


21 posted on 12/09/2005 12:58:38 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Some people forget over 60% of voters voted for a Republican candidate in that election. Instead of the paryt building McClintock up, they twisted every arm to screw him over. I still remember the GOP County Chairman group coming out and joining the betrayal. That was such a sad day - watching the news that evening and seeing them do that and how devastated the McClintock aides looked.


22 posted on 12/09/2005 1:29:29 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: FOG724
Interesting, isn't it, how more and more people are waking up on Arnold the Wonderful.

Now the challenge will be to determine whether he's just as bad as Gray Davis or even worse.

That (R) after his name means RINO, although, with a few more leftist moves, it will stand for Rat.

God, what a disaster this foreign jackass has turned out to be.

23 posted on 12/09/2005 3:55:34 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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God, what a disaster this foreign jackass has turned out to be.

I recently sat next to a lady visiting from Germany. Politics was brought up, by her not me. I said something about our governor and this launched her off. Insisting that she was not prejudice, she reminded me that Hitler was Austrian too. She brought up another Austrian of that same caliber I just can't remember who it was. Anyway, she insisted that we never should have elected an Austrian. Nothing about his policies, it was all about race with her.

24 posted on 12/09/2005 9:18:39 PM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"No. They would be serving in the McClintock administration."

What is the basis for that statement given the numbers in the election?


25 posted on 12/12/2005 3:37:44 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom

60% of voters wanted a Republican. Those votes would either go to Tom or Arnold. At the last moment they all swung to Arnold. Bustamante was never going to win the recall - never, not ever. Not a chance.


26 posted on 12/12/2005 3:43:42 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Without Arnold the recall would not have passed. I agree Bustamante would not have won. But most of Arnold's votes would not have gone to McClintock. They would have voted No on the recall.


27 posted on 12/12/2005 6:37:01 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom
Without Arnold the recall would not have passed. I agree Bustamante would not have won. But most of Arnold's votes would not have gone to McClintock. They would have voted No on the recall.

I see. What evidence do you have to cite that bizzarre conclusion?

28 posted on 12/12/2005 8:40:47 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"Those votes would either go to Tom or Arnold."

I'll post my evidence when you post yours.


29 posted on 12/13/2005 12:14:00 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom
Prior to Arnold even entering the race the recall was polling in the high 50s. After Arnold entered the race the recall numbers remained about the same. For most of the campaign Arnold and Tom were polling around 20-25%. In the closing days of the campaign the voters made a strategic decision to go with Arnold.

It is stupid to say that the recall would have failed without Arnold.
30 posted on 12/13/2005 12:32:44 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Quoting polls from more than a few days before the election is meaningless. The swing voters that matter make up their mind just before they vote. Because of Arnold, the recall passed despite the Democrat media blitz. Even then, it was fairly close. And let me quote you another poll--13%. That is the fraction that your, and my, man Tom McClintock got of the votes on election day. Wish it weren't so, but those are the facts about the voters in CA.


31 posted on 12/13/2005 4:23:34 PM PST by fifedom
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