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To: Allen H
"They don't bend for others, we should NOT bend for them. EVER!!! Screw muslims if they don't like it. They can feel free to go back to the other 55 muslim oppressed poor squaller nations. No one asked them to come here and tell us how we should do things in OUR country."

This should so totally go without saying, and the fact that it doesn't anymore is, I think, as much a matter of modern leftist ideology, as it is a matter of Islam.

This is the old US : We've figured out that running a country in line pragmatic structures guided by natural rights theory (that is, the US Constitutional principles), which grants individuals good deal of freedom, and in which the population is primarily Western culturally, works wildly well in terms of prosperity, technological progress, and individual satisfaction. You can come here and enjoy this system if you adopt our culture, agree with the basic underpinnings of our system (of course people have differences on the details; our system provides a structure for dealing with that - democracy constrained by rights, in conjunction with free speech), make yourself useful, and follow the laws we have regulating population influx (they help us sustain our culture; a vital ingredient in the recipe). If you don't like these conditions, you can't enjoy the fruits, because the fruits depend on these conditions.

And guess what? Millions of people liked these conditions just fine, and integrated into our country from all over the world.

And then...

This is the intellectual elite the 1960s: I'm pissy because f**cking and smoking everything in sight hasn't made me happy. Out of bitterness and guilt, I'll try to defame the system which gave me the freedom to f**k up, by claiming it is no better than any other system - including systems in which girls have their genitals cut up in toddlerhood, or systems in which farmers are starved to death for disobedience to the all-powerful state, or systems in which the government can force women to abort their babies. I'll call this defamation Multiculturalism.

This is now:

Modern Right (derived from guess which): Holy friggen-A, these poor people from this deranged culture want to drag us down to their level, and are willing to crush human beings like bugs to do so. This is serious! What can we do to preserve our culture? Maybe helping these poor folks out of their ideological and political cesspool is vital to protecting our own interests?

Modern Left (derived from guess which): Well, we all have our faults, so no culture is really better than any other. Let's be accepting of everything! (...guilt guilt, bitterness bitterness: Well, except of those things closest to the foundation of our own culture. You know, families (which is to say, cultural expectations of traditional boundaries on sexuality), limited government, expectations of personal responsibility, private property. Those we need to smash up.)
63 posted on 11/05/2005 2:28:59 PM PST by illinoissmith
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To: illinoissmith

THAT is an awesome post. I can't think of any way to have said any of that any better.


70 posted on 11/06/2005 7:41:24 AM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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