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I should have said "the Bolshevik rise to power," I can already hear the chorus of "correctors" telling we "What about WW2? You don't know your history!" The Russians received most of their pre-war support from the Germans, actually, who worked with the Russians to test German weapons that the Germans were not supposed to be working with. Some US firms had dealings with the Reds, but not many, and most, after getting a taste of how business was done over there, bailed. The Russians scraped by in the 1920's. Stalin had some western help, but not much. To suggest that big business put the Reds in power is stupid and wrong.


12 posted on 10/21/2005 10:45:21 AM PDT by giobruno
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To: giobruno; Bokababe; joan; montyspython; DTA; getoffmylawn; ma bell; Beckwith; ...

The major source of Hitler's financial power came from a chemical cartel called I.G Farben with an American group formed later...I.G. Farben has a little known source of its enormous power...Wall Street, USA, my country.

Quote: "Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and World War II.... Historian Anthony Sutton.

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

The "globalists" had determined that tehy would support the Bolsheviks, over and above the desire of the Russian People. The people actually wanted the Czar to remain their ruler. The History books are full of crap....we were taught lies and BS in school and I'm pissed. Our money provided the funding necessary for the beginning of the most despotic government of all History. The reason according to my research taken from many difference sources, all saying the same thing......was first of all Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company had seen an international competitor surface. The source of all this oil.....The Baku oil fields, Caspian Sea, Russia. Russia's Czar Nicholas II invited the European partnership of Rothschild and Nobel to develop his oil fields.....they even built a railroad for their use.

Therefore, a Bolshevik Victory, financed by American Bankers, guaranteed preferential treatment for John D. Rockefeller and world domination of the oil business. Thus we are in the Balkans...not for the "liberation" of Muslims from Serbs, but for the oil, control of the Balkans, and eventual dissolution of Russian states.

Since then, there has been an agenda as well, to socialize the U.S. that has an agenda even up to today that is getting ready to drive the last stake into the Constitution shortly.

December 2006:

Scholar Russia Has Energy Stranglehold Over Europe
By Barry Wood
Washington
07 December 2006

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-12-07-voa64.cfm?renderforprint=1

Marshall Goldman, a long-time student of Russia, says energy wealth and control over export pipelines have made Russia more powerful than at any time in its history. VOA's Barry Wood reports the Harvard University professor spoke at a forum Thursday in Washington.

Professor Goldman told the Jamestown Foundation that Russia's post-cold war power is built on its oil and gas resources. He said both eastern and western Europe have become dependent on Russia for oil and gas and that alternative supplies are not available. The recent boom in oil and gas prices, said Professor Goldman, has greatly boosted Russia's economic and political clout.

"I end up arguing, and I'm putting my neck out, that Russia is more powerful now than it ever was during the czarist era or the Soviet era," he noted. "In the Soviet era there was mutually assured destruction. They had nuclear weapons. We had nuclear weapons. We didn't use them, because we were worried they would and vice versa. Here you don't have that kind of restraint."

Goldman says Russia has a long history of using oil and gas as a foreign policy tool.

"In the Soviet era they cut off the flow of oil to Yugoslavia under Tito, to Israel after Sinai, to China after Mao broke away, to Cuba, to Finland, and more recently to Lithuania because there is a dispute over who is going to control the refinery there that Yukos is trying to sell," he explained.


18 posted on 12/26/2006 5:25:32 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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