Tracing the whale’s trail [Evolution trial, daily thread for 15 Oct]

York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 15 October 2005 | LAURI LEBO

[EasyBOven]

It still quite evident to me that the sun revolves around me and I need no further proof. Try saying that on the moon.

[PatrickHenry]

The official beer of Darwin Central

The Grand Master is pleased.

[phantomworker]

God created the evolutionary thread. AdminModDidit placemark

What does that mean?

[cornelis]

Or on the edge of the universe. We have no absolute reference point by except by choice. Our intellegince has insufficient evidence.

[EasyBOven]

It still quite evident to me that the sun revolves around me and I need no further proof.

Try explaining why toilets flush counter clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern (Or hurricanes, or the shifted path of missile trajectories, or global jet stream patterns) without a rotating Earth.

[phantomworker]

That Guiness link is good! LOL It takes a while to load...

[cornelis]

I think I follow your line of though a bit. There is an aspect of determinism in natural causation which is problematic for the possibility of human choice.

The theory of common descent is rather the theory of common biological descent. There may be evidence for speciation, there is absolutely no evidence in bone structures or carbon dating for the history of conceptualization. Bone structure doesn't even tell if she was pretty.

[WildTurkey]

God created the evolutionary thread.

Who created God?

[phantomworker]

That is so interesting. I have wondering a lot lately about perception and conceptualization. I hope you keep writing about it. Thank you.

[Coyoteman]

Placemarker

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[cornelis]

Who created God?

You are on track. The ancient Greeks, notably Aristotle, had a concept called the First Cause. To ask what caused the First Cause is only allowed if you are a novice. A First Cause has no prior cause by definition. The next question will be, does the First Cause really exist? Sadly to some, the answer does not depend on us. Nobody can think away what exists, our problem is to have a proper conception of it.

[opticks]

The toilet thing is a myth but your are correct about the Coriolis effect for the other two.

[cornelis]

Rotation is cool.

[PatrickHenry]

Just added to The List-O-Links:

NEW Of Pandas and People: A Brief Critique. By Kenneth R. Miller, Professor of Biology.

[WildTurkey]

Try explaining why toilets flush counter clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern (Or hurricanes, or the shifted path of missile trajectories, or global jet stream patterns) without a rotating Earth.

God did it. End of discussion.

[cornelis]

You're welcome.

It seems that the concept of an absolute reference point for motion is as odd as the concept of an absolute reference point for ethics.

[cornelis]

End of discussion.

Sounds like Islamic determinism.

[dread78645]

> AdminModDidit placemark

What does that mean?

It marks the last reply that I've read in this thread, so I can easily find it later.

[RightWingAtheist]

The tracing of the line of descent from land animals to whales is one of the most beautiful recent examples of science in action, in the way it brings together virtually every known technique and method in biology to help build us up towards a new and startling conclusion.