Posted on 10/11/2005 4:19:08 PM PDT by shrinkermd
Who elected Bush?
Not Minnesota, not Michigan, not Wisconsin, not Maine, not Vermont, not New Hampshire, not Conneticut, not Massachusets, not New York, not Pennsylvania, not Delaware, not DC, not Illinois, not California, not Oregon, not Washington, not Maryland, not Hawaii.
Not one electoral vote from the land of Pundits and Bloggers except for Virginia's 13 electoral votes.
I suggest that Coulter, Lowry, Kristol, Krauthammer, Ingraham, Fund, J-Pod and the rest first do their jobs in their home states and/or the states of their youths. HELP GET A DAMN PRESIDENT ELECTED, then complain.
We don't want to hear another talk show host out of New York or DC claim that they got Bush elected. Maybe you energized the troops out here but we did the work. You reside in the land of zero, nada, nothing - no Electoral College votes.
This SCOTUS arguement is treating the rest of the Republicans thoughout the country who actually provied electoral college votes for The President the same way the Dems and the news media did after the 2004 election. Hicks, hayseeds, Jesus freaks, rednecks, NASCAR fools......
Many people in the states that actually provided Electoral College votes are at some level of support or at least wait and see over this nomination. The polls say so. Check MSNBC and Drudge.
Posted by: msdl5 at October 11, 2005 05:38 PM
No need to answer. I'm just making a point.
I still think it's a shame Ditka didn't run.
Ditka was probably one of the few chances they had in IL in 2004. It's a state party that's in a heap of hurt, largely due to the problems with the former scandal plagued rino governor.
Keyes never stood a chance, but how he ran his campaign didn't help matters, either.
If you are referring to the interview, I believe I read that quote on the Dallas Morning News site but I couldn't find it right now after a quick search. Could be in archive.
This morning I browsed the first paragraph of every article in the archive that mentioned Miers ( preview of articles that could be purchased for a fee ), there was 511 articles. I might have read that quote there. There was a two part interview way back when. Someone who has money should purchase it.
Thanks for the ping to this refreshing thread, Jonny. I'm really sick of the insults being thrown at people who either want to wait for the hearings or choose to trust GWB's judgement. They call us Bushbots, kookaid drinkers, and such. I know most of it is coming from the hard-right reactionaries, or from Dems disguising themselves as "conservatives." But it's tiresome. So this thread is welcome relief.
"James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said he spoke with Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove on Oct. 1 -- two days before the Miers nomination -- and was told that "Harriet Miers was at the top of the short list."
"Also on that list were several candidates that many conservatives say they would have preferred, Mr. Dobson said on his radio program that was recorded yesterday and will be broadcast today.
"Well, what Karl told me is that some of those individuals took themselves off that list," he said, according to a transcript obtained last night. "They would not allow their names to be considered because the process has become so vicious and so vitriolic and so bitter that they didn't want to subject themselves or the members of their families to it."
"White House officials could not be reached for comment last night.
Excuse me???
Can't have them unwashed soiling the great halls of justice.
Hmmmmm....I think I hear a few Demoncrat politicians yelling: "Shut up and pay yer taxes!"
Can't have Miers in there, ohhhhh, noooooooooo.....why, you'd think those average Joes and Janes might think they have a say in how they're governed!
Perish the thought!
I'd expect the Left, for sure, to do whatever they could to kill Miers' chances.
I never expected such a significant part of the Right to stab Bush in the back and act like simpering traitors.
It takes time, but, the false "friends" usually expose their Quisling ways.
Everyone complains about the gang of 14, who actually asserted their will completely within the rules. Instead of whining about it, tip your hat to their political skill, and do something to counteract it.
The GOP Senate won't do it, and I'm sorry, but it sure looks like the president won't either. And all of a sudden, here comes this unified, loud voice of the judicial conservatives asserting themselves, and possibly even applying as much pressure from OUR side as the gang of 14 did from theirs. In short, the people, the ones who care, are actually rising up, being heard, and potentially deflecting a bad nominee.
At which point I guess you'll say she's not a bad nominee, or we should wait and see. OK, fine, we should wait and see. But I LOVE LOVE LOVE the idea of the hearings being held with not ONLY the gang of 14 applying pressure from the mushy moderate side, but the right, represented by the people themselves (can I get a huzzah??), applying pressure on the GOP from the RIGHT. It's a beautiful thing.
I was pessimistic when I thought that this nominee going down would result in a worse nominee. It doesn't have to be that way. But the more I learn, the more I think this one has got to go. Sorry. I'll watch the hearings, and I truly would love, if she does get confirmed, to have egg all over my face come next July when opinions start to roll out. I hope I have a Western Omellette with cheese on my face if that day comes. No lie.
My new mission is to try to respect and promote respect among my judicially conservative brethren. We may disagree, but we want the same thing. My other mission is to post something in 100 words or less.
I guess you forgot Rush Limbaugh's article "A choice made from weakness" and his home state of Florida
I'm an average joe, too. I don't get a say? What's wrong with this average joe having a say? The elitism thing is simply a pathetic grasp at straws.
Why are you struggling with this? Of course people harbor agendas. That's just another way of saying they have substantive goals they are willing to fight for. The agenda you harbor seems to be loyalty to GWB. You're the one who's being sanctimonious. Look at you judging and name calling everyone who disagrees with YOU. You're the one sneering.
My loyalty is the nation and not to a person, or collection of persons. The agendas I refer to are contrarian and self serving agendas. Inconsistent with a "Conservative" agenda. Too many of these *agenda-ists* have gotten too comfortable with the Beltway and the access to the halls of power and opinion shaping that they, themselves, once railed against and disdained with passion.
I will say this, though. Bush has the right to nominate whomever he chooses. It is the kneejerk opposition to a candidate who hasn't the 'experience' of a judge that has me piqued. There is no requirement, whatsoever, that a SCJ be a judge, or have judicial pedigree. The Constitution was created without the advice and consent of Harvard and Columbia autocrats. It is understood to be what it is by millions of Americans who don't need the likes of Schumer, Hildebeast, Spector or the Capitol Hill pinheads telling them who can and should be on the SC.
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