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VANITY: How does one get the most out of FAFSA?
FAFSA ^ | 9/24/05 | Self

Posted on 09/24/2005 3:06:53 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2

Does anybody out there know the college financial aid game? What are the do's and don't's? What life-strategies help or hurt when it comes to getting the most out of college financial aid?

I currently have a sophomore in a private university, and we have been fortunate that the college has provided this child a full ride so far.

I also have a senior in high school, and he is looking at private schools as well ($$$$). We also have a third-grader.

I have a modest income (let's say I have never maxed my Social Security withholdings). My wife has a side business that earns about $3k/yr, and it won't grow to much more than that.

As far as debt, I have about $135k mortgage balance on a home worth appx $210k, and I pay $817/mo on that. I have a 5 year car loan on a modest minivan, appx $330/mo, with 42 mos to go.

Thank the Lord, we are in good health, and there are no financial issues regarding that.

I would like to do a cash-out refi to fund a screened-in back deck and a new roof - likely $25k-$30k.

Is having debt good or bad when it comes to securing financial aid?

Help? I'm sure several others would benefit from this discussion.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education
KEYWORDS: fafsa; financialaid
God Bless you all, every d***ed one of ya.
1 posted on 09/24/2005 3:06:54 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Eccl 10:2
>>>What are the do's and don't's?

Do: Answer everything truthfully.
2 posted on 09/24/2005 3:12:24 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Don't have a house, don't have a car, don't have a spouse, and be sure you work two jobs. That's how to get the maximum. : )

If the child has his own money, you get a lot less in aid. They feel they are entitled to count one-third of the child's savings or other assets toward the family contribution each year.

Also, be careful of the loans. They can be a burden for many years to come, and combined with credit card debt can hold a young person back from what he wants to do in life. Often they are not dischargeable, and you can never settle a Sallie Mae loan. Deferment is only for real hardship, and with forbearance the interest keeps adding up even though you are not making payments. In general, it's not wise to go deeply into debt just to have a top-tier school with a big name.

3 posted on 09/24/2005 3:46:45 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Eccl 10:2
Getting financial aid via Pell Grants is tough. Seriously, it would probably be easier for me to get food stamps (were I not a college student).

I'm a 25 year old student, so I am classified as an "independent" student, and it's much easier now since only my income is considered.

However, when I first decided to return to college at 21 years of age, I was denied federal assistance initially, and had to take out a student loan. Even though I was living on my own. Even though the parent I used for the information they required lives in Charlotte, NC and gives me no money or support. Even though I could prove with lease agreements, utility bills, and auto insurance policies ALL IN MY NAME.

The reasoning? My parents make too much money. (They are comfortable, but by no means millionaires) The stupid and arbitrary system automatically assumed that my parents would simply foot the bill.

At the suggestion of the Financial Aid Officer at my school, the next year I simply ommitted my parents information, and wrote a letter to the school stating my independence, accompanied by the same verifiable documents supporting that statement. What she told me, was that all information given to the FAFSA dolts would be used to compute my EFC (expected family contribution), and that if information was ommitted, I could let them know about mitigating circumstances, and be considered an "independent" student before the cutoff age of 23.

The next year, I did just that, and became eligible for the maximum amount of aid. Even got a little more because of my GPA.

I am assuming your kids live with you, or in on-campus housing. If that's the case, it may be a bit more difficult to apply for aid the way I did. However, if they have certain legal documents in their own names, it may be easier to prove their "independent" status. Otherwise, they will have to include your income on their application for aid.

In my opinion, Pell Grants are unfair to the middle class, and to those independent students under the age of 23.

Good Luck to ya, FReepmail me if you have specific questions.

4 posted on 09/24/2005 4:50:01 PM PDT by PurVirgo (Kingwood, TX <>< Prayers and well wishes for the Gulf Coast.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Don't falsify anything. Pay your debt back...over time...even if it hurts. The process of becoming educated and qualified will bring unimagined opportunities to the recipient and economic prosperity beyond your wildest dreams.


5 posted on 09/25/2005 7:40:00 AM PDT by CBart95
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