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To Those Who Voted for Bush: Do You Get It Now?
The Crisis Paper ^ | September 6, 2005 | Bernard Weiner ==> PhD <== Co-Editor, Crisis Paper

Posted on 09/06/2005 12:12:15 PM PDT by rface

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To: rface
Perhaps it is just that the good Dr. Whiner has a faulty fact checker? Oops! make that "Dr. Weiner has a bad fact checker."

On that assumption here is the email I addressed to him moments before:

Dr. Weiner,

Having read your article, I was unable to answer the following questions and therefore find myself having to address them to you.

1. Were you aware of the calls from Washington to both the Mayor of New Orleans AND the Governor of Louisiana placed well before the storm, and that these calls emphatically requested immediate evacuations be started according to the existing evacuation plans?

2. Were you aware that, in clear disobedience to the Louisiana evacuation plan calling for the use of school buses, the only school bus to escape being flooded with four feet of water was the one that was commandeered by a student and used to drive some 70 people to Houston?

3. Were you aware of the Governor's stubborn refusal to authorize federal help/imposition of martial law?

4. If you were not aware of the above issues, when might one expect a correction to be published, and where might it be published?

I am asking about these issues because I plan to make this article a recommended reading for my students and am trying to arrange,in advance, for answers to the questions which I am sure they will raise.

Sincerely,


Would anyone care to hazard a guess as to when the answer will arrive?

"The day after the 12th of Never" has already been suggested.
121 posted on 09/06/2005 12:57:26 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: rface
OK FOLKS, we need to put a stop to this and there is only one way...PRAYER! I don't care what anyone says, BUT we need to start a PRAYER CHAIN again! We need to cover our president in prayer 24hrs/7days a week. I'll start by taking the 5am slot starting tomorrow...WE DONE THIS BEFORE AND conquered mountains, it's time for it again! I'll take the 5am slot..any takers?
122 posted on 09/06/2005 12:57:46 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: eyespysomething
no help came in the first five or six days

on CNN Jack Cafferty was pulling the same crap. On Thurs he said it had been 5 days. Either these idiots can't count or they think we can't.

I guess now it's been 10 days. What the heck, let's round it off to a month!

123 posted on 09/06/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (ABCNNBCBS: News for people who can't do a Google Search!)
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To: rface
Posting of this socialist propaganda is a total waste of bandwidth. I don't even bother reading the whole thing. It reads like every other article these socialist write.
124 posted on 09/06/2005 12:58:38 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Imperial Federal Government is your worst enemy! Don't give in to them!)
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To: pollyannaish

Nicely said!


125 posted on 09/06/2005 1:00:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Perfect example of the kind of leadership we have come to expect from the Democratic Party.

126 posted on 09/06/2005 1:04:22 PM PDT by Reaganghost (America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.)
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To: lugsoul

All Nagin had to do was:

1) Listen up when the head of the National Weather Service called him Friday night at home and begged him to order a mandatory evacuation.

2) Follow his OWN evacuation plan.

3) Included in that plan were clear guidelines to use city, commercial and school buses to help the disabled and those without resources.

4) Make sure the designated shelters had adequate food/water.

That's all he had to do. I certainly do expect mayors of all cities to follow The Plan.

What I don't expect is for them to have to write the plan because I have a full understanding that most of them are too stupid to write a plan on how to take out the garbage.

What I don't expect is for mayors to ignore warnings, ignore their own plan, and ignore the poor.


127 posted on 09/06/2005 1:06:20 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach; rodguy911; snugs; MadIvan; Allegra; Eagle Eye; MikeinIraq; Fred Nerks

And we have tons of these people on the west coast....every Freeper needs to see this nonsense.....


128 posted on 09/06/2005 1:08:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: rface

Needs a Barf Alert -- I have asked the mods to do so (all praises to the almighty mods).


129 posted on 09/06/2005 1:09:57 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (muhammed was the most evil person ever to live. May he burn in hell forever)
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To: rface

Who TF is Bernard Weiner, PhD?


130 posted on 09/06/2005 1:12:33 PM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Of course he is a liar. These people on the Left are now involved in the world's largest Progressive circle-jerk, hypering themselves into a barking frenzy and becoming increasingly divorced from reality in the process. Hell, many of these pseudo-intellectual types explicitly reject the entire concept of "reality". Heaping rumor upon hysterical charge upon cockamamie theory upon venomous contempt for the normal and the decent, they have created an Alternate Universe where a greedy, bloodthirsty BUSHCO conspires with HALLIBURTON and the RELIGIOUS RIGHT and the RIGHT-WING MEDIA and.... insanity will soon follow.


131 posted on 09/06/2005 1:14:07 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Eva
"The left is more interested in rebuilding the Democrat Party than they are in rebuilding NOLA and they will stoop to any level. It's beginning to feel like a game of limbo, "How low can you go?"

Never misunderestimate how low the Democratic Party or the lamestream media is willing to stoop. When a Democratic President is willing to lie under oath to a federal judge and federal grand jury and the party and the media are willing to defend him, no bar will ever be set too low.

When Kennedy crossed his bridge, and the party and the media defended him, no bar will be set too low.

When Hillary survived Whitewater, the Rose Law Firm Billing Records, Fort Marcey Park, Craig Livingstone and Filegate, Ron Brown's 'accidental death' and her health care fiasco, no bar will be set too low.

Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.

132 posted on 09/06/2005 1:16:55 PM PDT by Reaganghost (America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
"I can't believe this wackjob hater worked at the SF Chronicle for 19 years."

From the sound of the article, he is trying to get his old job back.

133 posted on 09/06/2005 1:18:55 PM PDT by Reaganghost (America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
You certainly have the morfordite POV nailed ... it seems increasingly to be the broader MSM POV. Their problems are solvable:


134 posted on 09/06/2005 1:20:12 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"We get an idea from the California experience...."

Well Said!

135 posted on 09/06/2005 1:20:57 PM PDT by Reaganghost (America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.)
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To: All
From the link:

Should have added ....for the article......NOT the link I just posted above....

137 posted on 09/06/2005 1:27:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: alloysteel
"Who was running against George W. Bush in 2004? Has anyone done any sort of profile HOW the events would have played out if Bush were not in charge?

Never mind Kerry, try to picture what things might have been like if the networks had called the 2000 election for that halfwit fruitcake 30 minutes earlier than they did. The bar will never be set too low.

Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.

138 posted on 09/06/2005 1:30:39 PM PDT by Reaganghost (America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.)
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To: dfwgator
I didn't say, or imply, anything about race. I was responding directly to the statement that those who 'do the job right' don't get any attention.

But if you want to do the 9-11/Katrina compare and contrast, the NYPD and NYFD had a 98% intact city from which to respond, with electricity and communications and all of the other basic amenities of modern life. In addition, they were able to actually move around the city.

Rudy would've had a far more significant task in NOLA last week than he had on 9/11.

139 posted on 09/06/2005 1:33:59 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Peach

I've never heard so many self-described conservatives wanting the government to exercise the power to force people to leave private property.


140 posted on 09/06/2005 1:35:08 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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