Posted on 08/22/2005 1:21:58 PM PDT by dukeman
Out of all the evil corporations in the world, Diebold, the maker of electronic voting machines, is just the worst to the moonbats on DU. So what could be worse than a top Dem going to work as the public face of Diebold? Enjoy:
yellowjacket7 (13 posts) Sat Aug-20-05 05:33 PM
Original message
Diebold hires top Dem for PR blitz (former DNC chair)
With a phone call and a retainer, Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell has launched former Democratic National Committee chairman Joe Andrew on a 50-state ambassadorship for electronic voting.
O'Dell said he ``wanted to reframe some of the issues,'' Andrew said.
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In three years in California, Diebold voting devices have awarded thousands of votes to the wrong candidates and broken down in two large counties during a presidential primary. Two successive state election chiefs, a Democrat and a Republican, both have rejected the TSx.
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full story
http://www.insidebayarea.com/localnews/ci_2958901
Eric J in MN (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
1. I never heard of Joe Andrew before, and yet the terms Sell-Out and Corporate-Whore quickly come to mind.
loudsue (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #1
2. Bound to have ushered in the DLC crowd.
Anybody that's whoring for the blackboxes is NOT an American... instead, they're just another arm of the republican mafia.
yellowjacket7 (13 posts)
Response to Reply #2
5. And who said Democrats can't be bought Enough said.
Imagevision (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #5
58. Now I understand why there isn't much in Dems backing Conyers!
ooglymoogly (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #58
86. the pugs need dino's
if they didn't have them they would be exposed for what they are, a dictatorship. so if the present fraudulent voting machines continue to fake elections, there will always be room and indeed a need for dinos and dinos will continue to win elections. we all saw what happened to real dems who bucked the pugs. the corporate propaganda machines love to say bipartisan, passed by a bipartisan vote. they dote and gloat on the word. so its pretty easy to see how we lost cafta, bankruptcy, medicare, tax giveaways to the rich and most whatever else the conglomerate nazis are pushing for and we owe it all to electronic voting with vapor ballots.
blm (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #1
27. He was at the DNC when Gore ran in 2000. He's a Clinton guy.
This is just ****ed, imo.
I hope Dean runs straight at him on this issue.
OTOH....maybe Diebold knows they can no longer carry on with their vote-rigging without getting caught because there are too many suspicious of their machines, and the press is having difficulty defending them.
Eric J in MN (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
3. Apparenly he was DNC Chair from 1999-2001.
Are other people here familiar with him?
That was recently, but I'm not familiar with him.
No Surrender (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #3
26. The name was familiar, as is the face.
I can't remember anything he's said though. If he's working for Diebold, he's just another corporate whore.
MelissaB (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
4. ****! "But Andrew isn't traveling the nation to talk about that or even to talk much about Diebold. So why is a ranking Democratic operative who was convinced Republicans ``stole'' the 2000 election working for Diebold and O'Dell, a battlestate fund-raiser for Bush-Cheney 2004?
It is Andrew's message that paperless electronic voting is good for Democrats - and his connections in Democratic circles. "
Right
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #4
9. What in the world???
AH! Now our own so-called allies are turning against us. It's all probably for Hillary!
TankLV (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #42
80. OK - Vichy Dem, then - SELLOUT, TRAITOR, whatever.
He's not a real Democrat, that's for sure.
MOLE - and his name is next to the word in the dictionary.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #8
11. Interesting indeed
Why go to a past chairman? I guess his DLC ties perhaps?
cryingshame (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #11
66. DLC Ties? Excuse? Why Bring Up DLC? Because Dean Was DLC?
I am not fond of the more visible DLC members and their affinity for kissing corporate ass, but the way DU'ers just throw the term around in lieu of the word "boogieman" is pathetic.
MisterP (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #16
24. the neolibs of the DLC aren't here to help the Dems, ya'know
me b zola (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
13. Unbelievable!
I'm at a loss for words.
zidzi (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
14. So they know they're in TROUBLE if they have to hire a rino in dino's clothing.
Eric J in MN (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
15. Joe Andrew isn't just a traitor to the Democratic Party.
Advocates of voting systems which can't be audited are tratiors to democracy.
Eric J in MN (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
21. Email the Democratic Party. Use the form at:
http://www.dnc.org/page/s/contact
Here is my letter to them:
Open Letter
I am very disappointed that former Democratic National Committee chairman Joe Andrew is advocating electronic voting.
Electronic voting lets Republican corporations program any election outcome they choose.
We need a voting system which can be audited. Paper ballots, not vapor ballots.
I was disgusted with Joe Andrew as I read this article
yurbud (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #48
98. AAAAAARGHH!!! You made my heart race--my email to DNC:
I was disappointed to see that former DNC chair Joseph J. Andrew has gone to work as a PR flak for Diebold, the electronic voting machine company that has been crucial in the Bush effort to rig the last couple of elections.
The democratic party should condemn Mr. Andrew and demand he step down in no uncertain terms, and demand that paper ballots hand counted be the standard for our elections until well after the current occupants are out of the White House and Congress.
It would be no victory for democracy to replace a sham election that installs Republicans with a sham election that installs DLC candidates.
wli (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
31. typical AEI/PNAC corporatist shill mole from the DLC
dwickham (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
33. I saw this story in the Oakland paper
I just hope that people don't assume that the DNC is in the pocket of Diebold now
We need to get rid of the voting machines all together and go back to good old fashioned paper ballots
the machines are too much trouble
freshharbor (44 posts)
Response to Original message
34. This is great news.....
Maybe he can hack the elections for us for once! This would been seen as a coup in certain areas.
sunnystarr (955 posts)
Response to Original message
35. another corporate whore selling us out to the highest bidder ...
personally I think he should just switch parties so that everyone knows exactly what he is. I hope Dean blasts him out of the water. But then again my hopes haven't been too high with the lack of quality in our leadership. Maybe he won't disappoint me. This is so outrageous and again calls for separating ourselves more publicly from the DLC.
havocmom (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #35
36. From your keyboard to Dr. Dean's eyes...
This man needs to have his nose seriously rubbed in it!
Take him down, Dr. Dean.
Imagevision (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #46
85. I agree also! Gives one a ****ty feeling about their own party
Where are the likes of Hillary or Obama etc. when these things occur??
Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
52. Put this with the blatantly bogus official DNC "report" on the Ohio Election, which managed to claim that there was no evidence for widespread fraud (!), and you see the very, very cozy relationship. At the expense of democracy.
This is outrageous in every way.
Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #79
88. Have we forgotten Cathy Cox of Georgia?
Cox is the Secretary of State of Georgia, a democrat.
She ushered in Diebold DREs statewide, the FIRST STATE to do so.
She has stonewalled, footdragged, lied, cancelled citizen meetings, and done everything possible to keep citizens and their questions and concerns out of the process.
I repeat, she is a democrat. With aspirations for higher office.
Does anybody remember the stunning scene in Fahrenheit 911 where the Congressional Black Caucus pleads with the Senators, for one Senator to help challenge the 2000 presidential results?
Does anybody remember how many phone calls (tens of thousands) it took to get ONE LOUSY SENATOR to sign on to challenge the Ohio electors on January 6th, 2005?
Does anybody remember how many lawyers and how many millions in his warchest Kerry claimed to have in advance of November 2004, in case there needed to be a challenge? Does anybody remember how many technologists were on the team? Does anybody remember WHAT PARTIES DID CHALLENGE THE OHIO ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT?
John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Barbara Lee, and Kucinich are right on the issues, and reflect the views of the American people. But, the Democratic Party apparatus does not, and does not support those few real representatives of the people, nor us the people.
PAPER BALLOTS NOT VAPOR BALLOTS!!!!!!!
Sorry, moonbats. Resistance is futile!
Talk about delusional. I wish any one of them were the Dem's candidate in'08.
Yeah, I liked that one, too. They're squeezed into a very tight echo chamber, aren't they?
I don't think I could stand it if one of those jokers got the dummies nomination. I think I would die from laughing before the dummies got out of the gate!
That must be their strategy-- we laugh so hard that we keel over from stomach cramps and can't go to the polls and vote. :-)
bump
Zhade (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-21-05 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #53
102. I think I'm going to be sick.
I'd say I'm stunned that I missed this (I *live* in Los Angeles), but since that scumbag liar Bev Harris turned out to be a ****ing freeper, I've kind of distanced myself from the movement (and THAT says a lot about the damage that crazy narcissist has done).
This is reprehensible.
DUmmie:"John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Barbara Lee, and Kucinich are right on the issues, and reflect the views of the American people."
Me:"HAHAHAHAHA..."
DUmmie:"NO really."
Me:"HAHAHAHA..."
DUmmie:"I'm serious."
Me:"HAHAHA..."
You just produced a transcript of what happens in my den every time I sit at the keyboard and lurk on DU. LOL!
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