To: TOWER
I have told you straight up that the theory of evolution does not care how the first life forms came to be
Yes, I know, and I've said that's a ludicrous proposition. Is evolution a causal force? Did it exist prior to the first lifeform? If not, where did it come from? Who or what brough the causal force of evolution into being?
Evolutionists only don't want to talk about abiogenesis because its the biggest fault of their entire theory and they have no answer for it.
180 posted on
07/22/2005 12:08:56 PM PDT by
mike182d
("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
To: mike182d
Here's another "ludicrous proposition". Is gravity a causal force? Did it exist prior to the first matter? If not, where did it come from? Who or what brough the causal force of gravity into being?
Gravitational theorists only don't want to talk about the origin of matter because its the biggest fault of their entire theory and they have no answer for it.
Hence why the theory of gravity is in turmoil. Teach the controversy!
To: mike182d
To have evolution one must have three things: imperfect replication, variation, and selection. Since prior to the existence of life none of these can come into play, evolution can only occur after life has come into being. Therefore, evolution cannot cover the origin of life.
In other words, regardless how you rant and rave, you are wrong.
201 posted on
07/22/2005 12:23:06 PM PDT by
Junior
(Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
To: mike182d
Did it exist prior to the first lifeform?
No. If there were no imperfect replicators, there was no evolution. Evolution started when the first life forms made imperfect copies of themselves.
If not, where did it come from?
It didn't "come from" anything. It's just a consequence of entities replicating imperfectly imperfectly.
Who or what brough the causal force of evolution into being?
Evolution isn't a "force". It's more of a side-effect process of life forms reproducing imperfectly such that only a certain subgroup of the offspring are able to successfully reproduce themselves.
Evolutionists only don't want to talk about abiogenesis because its the biggest fault of their entire theory and they have no answer for it.
Or maybe it's because, despite the insistence of creationists who haven't actually studied the field, how the first life forms came to exist in the first place has no bearing on evolution.
Three scenarios: The first life forms were the result of molecules coming together in the right configuration through natural and undirected processes, the first life forms were seeded by time-travelling humans, the first life forms were zap-poofed into existence by a divine agent. Now, let's say that you falsify two of those explanations (this doesn't "prove" the third, because there are any number of unstated hypothetical explanations that I didn't include in the above list). Pick any two of them, and explain how falsifying them would affect the theory of evolution. Be specific.
202 posted on
07/22/2005 12:24:48 PM PDT by
Dimensio
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