[Las Vegas Dave]

Paul Williams is on Michael Savage as I type this (Streaming on kernradio.com)

[Sally Golightly]

It sells books, I suppose.

Investigative journalist?

[NormsRevenge]

fyi ---

The author was just on with Savage , was on Coast to Coast AM with George Noury last night..

Book doesn't come out until September.

[Nachum]

If there really were 6 suitcase nukes detonated in the US, can you imagine the backlash? Can you imagine what people would demand as payback?

[Huntress]

Very scary. Anyone know how credible the source is?

[pillbox_girl]

A scary thought.

However, had AlQueda already smuggled nukes into the states, they would have used them by now.

Not that I'm saying we shouldn't do everything possible to make sure they don't get them or bring them in. Sealing the border (for real) would be a good start. Shutting down Iran's and North Korea's nuclear ambitions (by any means necessary) would be a good next step.

[Echo Talon]

Among those discussed: Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, Miami, Washington and Rappahannock County, Va.

NO New York?

[jla]

And how could al-Qaida manage to transport such weapons into the U.S.?

They probaly found it much more difficult than the agents of the (former) USSR.

[doug from upland]

Some people may laugh, but I am genuinely concerned about the possibility of some kind of nuclear hit here. It might not be exactly as Williams has described, but the threat is real. If we thought 9-11 changed the world forever, just think what a nuclear detonation would do.

[nwctwx]

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al Qaida's WMD Fatwa: Shaykh Nasir bin Hamid al Fahd

Until May 2003, al Qaeda did not have sufficient Islamic grounding on which to convincingly justify a WMD attack. In that month, however, a young Saudi cleric named Shaykh Nasir bin Hamid al-Fahd published "A Treatise on the Legal Status of Using Weapons of Mass Destruction Against Infidels."

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The study is lucidly written, comprehensive, and well-documented justification and authorization for using weapons of mass destruction against infidels-in this case, against the United States.

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Without Question, Shaykh al-Fahd wrote, the "Proscription [of weapons of mass destruction] Belongs to God Almighty, and to None Other Than He, such as Humans."

Shaykh al-Fahd begins by describing the term "weapons of mass destruction" as an "inexact term," claiming that chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons that killed a thousand people would be called by the West "internationally banned weapons," whereas the use of "high explosive bombs weighing seven tons apiece and [that] killed three thousand or more" would be called "internationally permissible weapons." On that basis, he dismisses the WMD-armed West's treaties and regulations banning WMD proliferation as mere attempts to scare others and protect itself. "Thus it is evident," he wrote, "that [the Western nations] do not wish to protect humanity by these terms, as they assert; rather, they want to protect themselves and monopolize such weapons on the pretext of banning them internationally."

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"All these terms have no standing in Islamic law, because God Almighty has reserved judgment and legislation to Himself...This is a matter so obvious to Muslims that it needs no demonstration...In judging these weapons one looks only to the Koran, the Sunnah [i.e., the sayings and traditions of the Prophet], and the statements of Muslim scholars."

Summary of al-Fahd's Fatwa:

• Shaykh al-Fahd first cites three examples from the Koran in which God says that Muslims may respond reciprocally for attacks made on them. "Anyone who considers America's aggressions against Muslims and their lands during the past decades," al-Fahd wrote, "will conclude that striking her is permissible merely on the rule of treating as one has been treated. Some brothers have totaled the number of Muslims killed directly or indirectly by their weapons and come up with a figure of nearly 10 million."

• Shaykh al-Fahd next argues that large civilian casualties are acceptable if they result from an attack meant to defeat an enemy, and not an attack aimed only at killing the innocent. "The messenger of God [the Prophet Muhammad]," al-Fahd wrote, "commanded an attack on the enemy. In many traditions, he attacked others...He was not prevented from this by what we know, namely that he knew that women and children would not be safe from harm. He allowed the attack because the intent of the attackers was not to harm them...Thus the situation in this regard is that if those engaged in jihad establish that the evil of the infidels can be repelled only by attacking them at night with weapons of mass destruction, they may be used even if they annihilate the infidels."

• Shaykh al-Fahd concludes by addressing the issue of whether Muslims can kill other Muslims in pursuing jihad in God's name. He says that, indeed, the lives of Muslims are considered sacred and there is no permission from God to wantonly kill another Muslim. But, al-Fahd maintains, "If we accept the argument unrestrictedly, we should entirely suspend jihad, for no infidel land is devoid of Muslims. As long as jihad has been commanded...and it can be carried out only in this way [i.e., with Muslims being killed in attacks by Muslims], it is permitted." God allows this, al-Fahd explains, "so that the enemy cannot force us to abandon jihad by imprisoning a Muslim among them."

Excerpts from, Imperial Hubris , by Michael Scheuer: Pages 154-156

[kingu]

1) If any group had nuclear weapons, Israel would be a smoldering hole in the ground. Two, perhaps three nukes, would take out the majority of Israel's central population. They're backlash would virtually destroy anything remaining of Israel when the international community isolates them for retaliating.

2) Suitcase nukes are like our backpack nukes - build it, blow it up, store a couple, but otherwise they weren't built. If either side had a handful at any point, I'd be shocked.

3) Any 'suitcase nukes' that terrorists have gotten their hands on are likely elaborate scams to steal their money. Something that is all too common, especially when the terrorists tried to buy from the mobs in Russia. As Bin Ladin if he feels he got his money's worth for all the weapons his group bought - only one quarter of the rocket launchers functioned, and most of the rocket propelled grenades were duds as well.

4) Radiological detectors along our southern highways and byways will catch any nuclear material smuggled in from Mexico. This is the least likely method to sneak such material into the country. Far easier and less likely to be detected if the shipments come in via air cargo.

5) If Al Queda had so many sleepers in the United States (5,000?) they wouldn't need any nuclear weapons or the need to smuggle in much of anything. Most of our weapons stockpiles are guarded by minimal amounts of troops. Same with airplane storage facilities. They could easily overwhelm what little defense there is with a hundred people.

Sorry - this stuff should stay on Coast To Coast AM with the aliens who have an unreasonably large facination with the backsides of human males.

[firebrand]

The Blind Boys say don't fear the atom bomb. There's something worse that can befall you.

[Eastbound]

Well maybe it's just time to round up every muzzie in the country and isolate them together somewhere where they will be safe from the bomb. They'll be glad we did.

FAIL SAFE! It'll work!

[Eastbound]

Now is a good time (while there is time) for all good, moderate Muslims to ask themselves one simple question.

Why do you ask allah to curse those who are killing you in the name of allah? Don't you find that somewhat incongruous? A slight failure in using a gram of logic to resolve your cognitive dissonance? Did it ever enter your mind that allah is having you killed by your own brothers because you do not believe in Islam strongly enough?

Consider that it may be more righteous to believe in no god than to believe in one who wants you dead unless you join in the murder and maiming of the rest of the world.

If and when the 'nukes' come, you will remember this.

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Thank you for posting this, Las Vegas Dave, and thanks for referring to it on the TM thread.

Most of us take all these threats seriously (as we should).