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1 posted on 07/13/2005 1:05:24 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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Islam ping.

Char

2 posted on 07/13/2005 1:06:34 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE
"non-violent muslims"???  Is that like a pro-abortion Catholic?  How many of these could there be?
Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

3 posted on 07/13/2005 1:07:34 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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There is some evidence that Islam is, from the beginning and in its essence, a religion of bullies, or of people who suck up to bullies, a type that will be familiar to most of us.

In the early days, one group of North Africans were converted to Islam because they were stupified and filled with admiration by the violence of the Muslim bullies who killed their friends.

Bin Ladin appealed to a similar idea when he said that when Muslims see a weak horse and a strong horse, they admire a strong horse.

The difference in the concept of martyrdom is also striking. A Christian martyr is someone who suffers and dies for the sake of God. A Muslim martyr is a man who dies in the process of killing as many people as possible, preferably women and children. It was noticeable that when a lot of young Pakistanis went to Afghanistan to be martyred, they were mocked and scorned because they died without managing to kill anyone in the process.

Yet another indication in support of this analysis is Muslim treatment of women and slaves. They are natural-born slavers, who take pleasure in tormenting the weak and helpless. Muslims don't have a monopoly on the abuse of women, but it seems to be built into their whole system of religion and culture.

In short, Islam is a religion made to order for those with a propensity to be cowardly bullies.


7 posted on 07/13/2005 1:17:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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It simply means that their fear rules them, not their faith. But then it is fairly obvious that it takes a coward to blow up a bus full of children. This article just says that they are all cowards, there is nobody with the moral foundation in Islam to stand up for what is right.

It means that there is no moderate muslims, just tyrants and cowards.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 1:17:20 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Assuming this new data is believable (something one must always consider when dealing with muslims) the only sensible approach is to harvest the wheat and the weeds.

Then replant the field with a different crop.

9 posted on 07/13/2005 1:18:38 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (abolish islam)
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To: CHARLITE
But it seems that many more have "thought twice" and chosen not to risk death to themselves or their family.

Then they are between a rock and a hard spot, because the war will come to them no matter how hard they try to stay away from it.

To be a muslim fence-sitter, in the hopes of staying out of the fray, is useless when Islam itself is the target.

10 posted on 07/13/2005 1:20:57 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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This is pure unadulterated Irish BS. People know what is right and what is wrong. The Muslims in this country obviously have some cultural problem where this is concerned.

If there is any fear factor, it's because this religion silences their women from speaking out. There is no excuse for their men.

On the other hand regardless of our ethnicity we are Americans first and our heritage second. It sounds like Iraqi Muslims who were born in England have a greater allegiance to their religion than they do to their British citizenship.

I am unimpressed with the lame excuses this group of American citizens give to their fellow Americans. It did not take long in contrast, for Americans of Lebanese heritage to go into the streets to show their support for the Lebanese in their country.

I suggest asking your Muslim friends, neighbors and co-workers next time you see them, just what they have done or propose to do to help fight the war on terror. If they say nothing, then ask them WHY?


12 posted on 07/13/2005 1:28:41 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: CHARLITE
the author makes some interesting points, none of which justifies silence in the least; at best this is a pathetic plea for sympathy. 99% should not be terrified of 1% unless the 99% are unarmed and cowardly

the 'pressure to conform' is part of the religion - remember that "Islam" means "submission"

Two admonitions worth remembering:
1. all that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing
2. the fire does not distinguish the cotton bolls with weevils from those without

Multiple articles have been written encouraging Islam to 'heal itself' of this dangerous intellectual cancer. These articles should be heeded, and quickly, before the world declares "enough!" and follows the path of the Daleks*

(* Daleks are mechanical villains from the Dr. Who series noted for their extreme intolerance and tendency to exterminate others on the slightest pretext.)
15 posted on 07/13/2005 1:37:07 PM PDT by CzarChasm (My opinion. No charge.)
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Trouble is, this is more excuse-making. Muslims aren't silent because they hate us and want us dead, they're just silent because they're too cowardly and and weak to oppose the fanatics. That's _so_ reassuring.


18 posted on 07/13/2005 1:41:43 PM PDT by Trimegistus
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I am beginning to see the handwriting on the wall. If I were a nonviolent, passive Muslim I would be getting very nervous about now. A few more bombs go off in London or the US and folks are going to start going after Muslims...any Muslims. Most Muslims aren't terrorists...but most terrorists are Muslim and now it appears that they can be home grown as well. How in the he11 are we supposed to be able to tell the difference between a peaceful Muslim and one that wants to kill women and children and cut off heads? Unless, these passive Muslims don't start helping us root out the terrorists now, I won't lift a finger to help them, when folks that have had enough start to sweep the streets.
25 posted on 07/13/2005 2:24:14 PM PDT by doggieboy (Bush's exit strategy for Iraq is through Iran.)
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Detailed definition of two words....
Death cult.

'Religions' don't kill you if you disagree or want to leave.
Cults do.
We have seen Islam's hate- where is its LOVE?
Loving acts , charity, embracing of other faiths, brotherhood,
Where are the Islam ladies groups doing charity work for others? Where are the groups of Muslims getting together to show what THEY say Islam is all about?
Where IS the other face of Islam- now's the time to trot it out.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 3:49:01 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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"As Iranian expatriate and Islamic terrorism expert Amir Teheri wrote recently, these "ordinary" Muslims, whether devout, moderate or "nominal." are dealing with fanatics who "cannot be talked into reason through anger management or round-table discussions."

Maybe it is their "religion" of choice that is their problem. Islam seems to be the only religion that believes in killing those who don't believe in it.

39 posted on 07/14/2005 8:45:42 AM PDT by zerosix
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